[sudo-discuss] Shawn + zinetic thread hijack

["Løng$hanks"]

A little holiday trolling...come on, cut me some slack, jill & jack.
B t w I changed my mind & am producing two or three more issues of my award-winning,
bestselling, antiestablishmentally ill anarcho-zine, SF RESISTOR! Isn't that neat?

Here's a little teaser....page 3 from the 2nd zine-in-progress, which will be done by xmas.
It features notes on printing & design that may be of interest to a few techminded zinephile
types. Those people still exist, right? I'm not completely alone here?

Oh, &...something I just wrote:

Now I lay me down to sleep,
mystified by all the sheep
who pray the bank their homes to take
little guessing what's at stake






On Thu, December 18, 2014 8:13 am, niki wrote:
> I'm sorry that I won't be able to make the meeting on Thursday and thanks,
> Korl, for taking this up.
>
> I appreciate your compassion and agree that we should approach the
> situation with empathy - I would prefer for us to find a way to work with
> Shawn so that both he and those who interact with him feel comfortable in
> the space, if that's possible.
>
> <3
>
> Niki
>
> On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 2:54 AM, Eske Silver <eske.silver at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> The topic was added to the delegate agenda to include All of the recent
>> incidents and iteractions with guests who have caused physical discomfort,
>> and/or uneasiness, distrust, alienation, etc, etc, etc.
>>
>> Shawn is included in this group, as he is one of the guests who has
>> behaved in abusive (wide definiton, mind) ways not only toward people, but
>> toward the commons itself.
>> We ought to have a communal discussion about All similar characters,
>> interactions and concerns.
>>
>> If someone would contact John Benson to ask if he would be willing to help
>> us specifically with Shawn, that would be best.
>> Since his behavior doesn't seem entirely in his control, we should of
>> course approach his case with empathy, but also that we cannot tolerate
>> abusive behavior of any kind, as it wholly violates the goal of the commons
>> being a place where people feel safe, respected, supported, etc.
>>
>> Whichever decision is made, that concerns Shawn and/or other current and
>> future aggrevators, I think it's only fair that all who are and have been
>> affected by the individual/s and their behavior, ought to be present and
>> have their concerns voiced. But perhaps both situations concurrently
>> wouldn't hurt.
>>
>> ~ Korl
>>
>> 500px.com/eske
>> 510.689.4484
>> On Dec 18, 2014 2:27 AM, "Eske Silver" <eske.silver at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Aye, aye. Slashes, bruh, slashes! Not commas!
>>> Sheesh.
>>>
>>> ~ Korl
>>>
>>> 500px.com/eske
>>> 510.689.4484
>>> On Dec 17, 2014 1:23 PM, Løng$hanks <longshanks at spaz.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> As a rude, aggressive, abusive drunk squatter, I find this offensive.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, December 16, 2014 10:29 pm, Eske Silver wrote:
>>>> > I added to the agenda as a general item (dealing with
>>>> > rude/aggressive/abusive/drunk guests/squatters... etc)
>>>> >
>>>> > ~ Korl
>>>> >
>>>> > 500px.com/eske
>>>> > 510.689.4484
>>>> > On Dec 16, 2014 4:03 PM, "Marc Juul" <juul at labitat.dk> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 7:03 PM, Eske Silver <eske.silver at gmail.com>
>>>> >> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> I too have had less than steller interactions, and witness similar
>>>> with
>>>> >>> others, including Niki on one or more occasions.
>>>> >>> It's a shame that he does not seem to respect the space. I understsnd
>>>> >>> that he's in a bad way, and has little other options. But I feel we
>>>> are in
>>>> >>> need of a sit down with him about how he might conduct himself here
>>>> in a
>>>> >>> way that is at least slightly less aggravating/ alienating/ etc.
>>>> >>> That being said, I have years of experience interacting with
>>>> mentally ill
>>>> >>> (decades), socially inept, and homeless people. At some point a line
>>>> needs
>>>> >>> to be drawn. We are not his parents, nor are we responsible for his
>>>> >>> situation. We are not obligated to light ourselves on fire to keep
>>>> someone
>>>> >>> else warm.
>>>> >>> Are a few of us free some time soon to meet up to discuss this in
>>>> person?
>>>> >>> To discuss in general the handful of people who have acted in
>>>> similar (and
>>>> >>> worse) ways recently, and try to find a solution.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >> Could this be a subject for tomorrow's meeting?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> --
>>>> >> marc/juul
>>>> >>
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>>>>
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>>>>
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