[sudo-discuss] Sudo! Wanna co-host this surveillance event?

Mon Feb 3 02:33:50 PST 2014

Matt, I will bring up your point at the next organizing meeting for sure.
Thank you for being willing to sponsor.

Yardena - your point is exceedingly well taken, as I sit here from my gmail
account, writing about how if want to do the event, we should post it on
facebook...sigh.

To my discredit, I really don't have an answer for this one except that in
my opinion, email as a medium is itself an inherently broken means of
secure communication, a lotta people on sudo have google accounts, and yeah
sudo posts regularly to facebook, which is why I asked.. Sometimes you have
to reach out to people in an archaic medium they already grok - like on a
listserv, or fb - in order to tell them that is maybe not The Best Way.

Personally, once I gave up on email qua email as being meaningfully secure,
I sort of stopped caring who my provider was. Or teaching people how to
encrypt their message content, only to have them never get that doesn't
secure their attachments or the "metadata" or render messages readable from
the web from any device anymore or or or (I kind of hate the term metadata
btw, as in mass culture 'metadata' has seemingly come to infer something
other than 'our' data, and as if metadata is not also our data, just like
our non-meta data).

But yes for sure, if we care about 'privacy', we DO need to be off fb (and
onto building up diaspora or something similar), and, we need to be off
email. And use some darkmail, or otr or a private forum or something else.

I feel like for us to all get off fb, we need a real alternative to go to,
and a campaign. Same with email. But before we build that up.. using
fb/email or not using it, it seems like being caught between a rock and a
hard place when trying to promote an event but not feed the biting hand,
you know?

As this is precisely the position I feel like the system of capital as a
whole places us in, far beyond mark zuckerberg and google and 'big data':
We can't help but feed the hand that bites us. We 'need' to be bitten, so
our traumatized, bitten selves can feed somebody or something else..often
while simultaneously handing a bite to somebody else less powerful, as in
in the case of gentrification. If that partially re-inverted idiom still
makes any sense..which um, no, looks like it doesn't. Well. Sorry, tired.
But I totally get you.

Yeah. Tired.

David

On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 1:12 AM, GtwoG PublicOhOne <g2g-public01 at att.net>wrote:

>
> Re. "what does the rest of sudo think?"
>
> Microphones & cameras on shot-spotters?  What about the
> software-controlled mics & cameras on smartphones, that people carry into
> indoor places where the DAC cameras and mics can't go?  If it doesn't have
> a physical OFF switch or a removable battery, it's always ON.
>
> NSA snooping your metadata?  What about Google Mail and Google Voice
> scraping the full content of both sides of every email & conversation for
> everything down to the level of "sentiment analysis" which is a euphemism
> for spying on your emotions?  "Targeted advertising" is a distraction; Big
> Data is the real product.
>
> DAC data center creepy?  What about Facebook creepy, and Sudo having a
> Facebook page, even as Mark Zuckerberg spends $16 million to buy up every
> house on his block, so his neighbors can't do unto him that which he does
> unto others...?
>
> Big Power is inherently corrupt wherever it resides.  Big Data is Big
> Power.  Even if it has good marketing, cute logos, total convenience, free
> apps, free games, and endless entertainment.
>
> Corporate power says "don't bite the hand that feeds you."
>
> Resistance says "don't feed the hand that bites you."
>
> -G.
>
>
> =====
>
>
>
>
>
> On 14-02-02-Sun 11:12 AM, David Keenan wrote:
>
> Jeremy - Of course! And we should.
>
>  what does the rest of sudo think?
>
> On Sunday, February 2, 2014, Jeremy Entwistle <jwentwistle at cryptolab.net>
> wrote:
>
>> I think that's an amazing idea. How to do you feel about the mesh and our
>> cryptoparty (2/23) being mentioned? As both are very practical methods of
>> promoting secure and decentralized communications.
>>
>> On 2014-02-01 21:58, David Keenan wrote:
>>
>>> Hey all,
>>>
>>> The Bay Area Public School has scheduled a surveillance awareness
>>> event on Friday 2/21 7-9pm in the common room entitled Spied Upon:
>>> Surveillance & Resistance. I was hoping we (sudo) could co-host this
>>> event with BAPS, because I think it'd be really cool if we start doing
>>> more events together. BAPS can do most all of the setup, but it'd be
>>> great if Sudo can do outreach too, since I think it'd be in the
>>> interest of both communities.
>>>
>>> What do you think?
>>>
>>> There's a twofold focus on informants and technological surveillance.
>>> Here's the Sudo Room calendar EVENT LINK [1]. Details are below -
>>>
>>> SPIED UPON: SURVEILLANCE AND RESISTANCE
>>> Join us Friday February 21st 7-9 pm at the Bay Area Public School [2]
>>> & Sudo Room
>>>  2141 Broadway (enter on 22nd), Oakland - three blocks from 19th St.
>>> Bart!
>>>
>>> Between the ever-present fear of informants to the profusion of
>>> metadata collection and the construction of the Domain Awareness
>>> Center [3] (DAC) in Oakland, the growing problem of surveillance has
>>> made it into the mainstream dialog, but the people and communities
>>> most affected are sometimes being left out of the conversation.
>>>
>>> Join us for an evening of ideas, discussion and questions about
>>> solidarity in the face of this intimidation. How do we support one
>>> another and our movements when being targeted by police, surveillance
>>> and informants? What are the legal, community and political responses
>>> that can best keep the larger "us" safe and allow our movements to
>>> flourish?
>>>
>>> - SPEAKERS -
>>> JASON KIRKPATRICK, filmmaker and activist, will show clips of and
>>> discuss his upcoming film, _SPIED UPON_ [4]. Interviewing activists
>>> across the world and telling his own personal story, Jason will take
>>> us on a journey into one of Europe's biggest political surveillance
>>> scandals, documenting growing movements of resistance to surveillance
>>> along the way.
>>>
>>> ZAHRA BILLOO, Civil rights attorney and Executive Director at the Bay
>>> Area COUNCIL ON AMERICAN-ISLAMIC RELATIONS [5] (CAIR), speaks on the
>>> use of informants in a post-9/11 context, their impact, the
>>> community's resistance and lessons learned.
>>>
>>> RICHARD BROWN, Black Panther and member of the SF8 [6], will share his
>>> history with undercover police and surveillance, imparting the 'long
>>> view' of solidarity learned from a lifetime of activism.
>>>
>>> - PANEL DISCUSSION -
>>> Q & A with the speakers will follow in conversation with
>>> representatives from:
>>>  BAY AREA ANTI-REPRESSION COMMITTEE [7]
>>> BAY AREA COALITION TO STOP POLITICAL REPRESSION [8] (at AROC)
>>>  LEGAL WORKERS OF THE NATIONAL LAWYERS GUILD [9] (NLG)
>>> OAKLAND PRIVACY WORKING GROUP [10] (OPWG / anti-DAC)
>>>
>>> All donations gratefully received will go to the Bay Area
>>> Anti-Repression Committee and the Legal Workers at the Bay Area
>>> chapter of the NLG - two groups long supporting the Bay Area radical
>>> community with legal and educational assistance. Thank you!
>>>
>>> Links:
>>> ------
>>> [1] https://sudoroom.org/ai1ec_event/spied-upon-bay-area-premiere-baps/
>>> [2] http://thepublicschool.org/node/36455
>>> [3] http://oaklandwiki.org/Domain_Awareness_Center
>>> [4] http://spiedupon.com/
>>> [5] http://www.cair.com/
>>> [6] http://www.freethesf8.org/who.html
>>> [7] https://oaklandantirepression.wordpress.com/
>>> [8]
>>>
>>> http://araborganizing.org/campaigns-our-work/coalition-to-stop-political-repression/
>>> [9] http://www.nlgsf.org/national-lawyers-guild-mission-statement
>>> [10] https://oaklandprivacy.wordpress.com/
>>>
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