[sudo-discuss] Sudo! Wanna co-host this surveillance event?

Mon Feb 3 02:38:06 PST 2014

And btw matt / all - nope, no one has to do any legwork unless they want
to. I will/am/have been doing so, so I'll continue make that happen. Just
need the space and (y)our considered blessing. Tx!

On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:33 AM, David Keenan <dkeenan44 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Matt, I will bring up your point at the next organizing meeting for sure.
> Thank you for being willing to sponsor.
>
> Yardena - your point is exceedingly well taken, as I sit here from my
> gmail account, writing about how if want to do the event, we should post it
> on facebook...sigh.
>
> To my discredit, I really don't have an answer for this one except that in
> my opinion, email as a medium is itself an inherently broken means of
> secure communication, a lotta people on sudo have google accounts, and yeah
> sudo posts regularly to facebook, which is why I asked.. Sometimes you have
> to reach out to people in an archaic medium they already grok - like on a
> listserv, or fb - in order to tell them that is maybe not The Best Way.
>
> Personally, once I gave up on email qua email as being meaningfully
> secure, I sort of stopped caring who my provider was. Or teaching people
> how to encrypt their message content, only to have them never get that
> doesn't secure their attachments or the "metadata" or render messages
> readable from the web from any device anymore or or or (I kind of hate the
> term metadata btw, as in mass culture 'metadata' has seemingly come to
> infer something other than 'our' data, and as if metadata is not also our
> data, just like our non-meta data).
>
> But yes for sure, if we care about 'privacy', we DO need to be off fb (and
> onto building up diaspora or something similar), and, we need to be off
> email. And use some darkmail, or otr or a private forum or something else.
>
> I feel like for us to all get off fb, we need a real alternative to go to,
> and a campaign. Same with email. But before we build that up.. using
> fb/email or not using it, it seems like being caught between a rock and a
> hard place when trying to promote an event but not feed the biting hand,
> you know?
>
> As this is precisely the position I feel like the system of capital as a
> whole places us in, far beyond mark zuckerberg and google and 'big data':
> We can't help but feed the hand that bites us. We 'need' to be bitten, so
> our traumatized, bitten selves can feed somebody or something else..often
> while simultaneously handing a bite to somebody else less powerful, as in
> in the case of gentrification. If that partially re-inverted idiom still
> makes any sense..which um, no, looks like it doesn't. Well. Sorry, tired.
> But I totally get you.
>
> Yeah. Tired.
>
> David
>
> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 1:12 AM, GtwoG PublicOhOne <g2g-public01 at att.net>wrote:
>
>>
>> Re. "what does the rest of sudo think?"
>>
>> Microphones & cameras on shot-spotters?  What about the
>> software-controlled mics & cameras on smartphones, that people carry into
>> indoor places where the DAC cameras and mics can't go?  If it doesn't have
>> a physical OFF switch or a removable battery, it's always ON.
>>
>> NSA snooping your metadata?  What about Google Mail and Google Voice
>> scraping the full content of both sides of every email & conversation for
>> everything down to the level of "sentiment analysis" which is a euphemism
>> for spying on your emotions?  "Targeted advertising" is a distraction; Big
>> Data is the real product.
>>
>> DAC data center creepy?  What about Facebook creepy, and Sudo having a
>> Facebook page, even as Mark Zuckerberg spends $16 million to buy up every
>> house on his block, so his neighbors can't do unto him that which he does
>> unto others...?
>>
>> Big Power is inherently corrupt wherever it resides.  Big Data is Big
>> Power.  Even if it has good marketing, cute logos, total convenience, free
>> apps, free games, and endless entertainment.
>>
>> Corporate power says "don't bite the hand that feeds you."
>>
>> Resistance says "don't feed the hand that bites you."
>>
>> -G.
>>
>>
>> =====
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 14-02-02-Sun 11:12 AM, David Keenan wrote:
>>
>> Jeremy - Of course! And we should.
>>
>>  what does the rest of sudo think?
>>
>> On Sunday, February 2, 2014, Jeremy Entwistle <jwentwistle at cryptolab.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I think that's an amazing idea. How to do you feel about the mesh and
>>> our cryptoparty (2/23) being mentioned? As both are very practical methods
>>> of promoting secure and decentralized communications.
>>>
>>> On 2014-02-01 21:58, David Keenan wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey all,
>>>>
>>>> The Bay Area Public School has scheduled a surveillance awareness
>>>> event on Friday 2/21 7-9pm in the common room entitled Spied Upon:
>>>> Surveillance & Resistance. I was hoping we (sudo) could co-host this
>>>> event with BAPS, because I think it'd be really cool if we start doing
>>>> more events together. BAPS can do most all of the setup, but it'd be
>>>> great if Sudo can do outreach too, since I think it'd be in the
>>>> interest of both communities.
>>>>
>>>> What do you think?
>>>>
>>>> There's a twofold focus on informants and technological surveillance.
>>>> Here's the Sudo Room calendar EVENT LINK [1]. Details are below -
>>>>
>>>> SPIED UPON: SURVEILLANCE AND RESISTANCE
>>>> Join us Friday February 21st 7-9 pm at the Bay Area Public School [2]
>>>> & Sudo Room
>>>>  2141 Broadway (enter on 22nd), Oakland - three blocks from 19th St.
>>>> Bart!
>>>>
>>>> Between the ever-present fear of informants to the profusion of
>>>> metadata collection and the construction of the Domain Awareness
>>>> Center [3] (DAC) in Oakland, the growing problem of surveillance has
>>>> made it into the mainstream dialog, but the people and communities
>>>> most affected are sometimes being left out of the conversation.
>>>>
>>>> Join us for an evening of ideas, discussion and questions about
>>>> solidarity in the face of this intimidation. How do we support one
>>>> another and our movements when being targeted by police, surveillance
>>>> and informants? What are the legal, community and political responses
>>>> that can best keep the larger "us" safe and allow our movements to
>>>> flourish?
>>>>
>>>> - SPEAKERS -
>>>> JASON KIRKPATRICK, filmmaker and activist, will show clips of and
>>>> discuss his upcoming film, _SPIED UPON_ [4]. Interviewing activists
>>>> across the world and telling his own personal story, Jason will take
>>>> us on a journey into one of Europe's biggest political surveillance
>>>> scandals, documenting growing movements of resistance to surveillance
>>>> along the way.
>>>>
>>>> ZAHRA BILLOO, Civil rights attorney and Executive Director at the Bay
>>>> Area COUNCIL ON AMERICAN-ISLAMIC RELATIONS [5] (CAIR), speaks on the
>>>> use of informants in a post-9/11 context, their impact, the
>>>> community's resistance and lessons learned.
>>>>
>>>> RICHARD BROWN, Black Panther and member of the SF8 [6], will share his
>>>> history with undercover police and surveillance, imparting the 'long
>>>> view' of solidarity learned from a lifetime of activism.
>>>>
>>>> - PANEL DISCUSSION -
>>>> Q & A with the speakers will follow in conversation with
>>>> representatives from:
>>>>  BAY AREA ANTI-REPRESSION COMMITTEE [7]
>>>> BAY AREA COALITION TO STOP POLITICAL REPRESSION [8] (at AROC)
>>>>  LEGAL WORKERS OF THE NATIONAL LAWYERS GUILD [9] (NLG)
>>>> OAKLAND PRIVACY WORKING GROUP [10] (OPWG / anti-DAC)
>>>>
>>>> All donations gratefully received will go to the Bay Area
>>>> Anti-Repression Committee and the Legal Workers at the Bay Area
>>>> chapter of the NLG - two groups long supporting the Bay Area radical
>>>> community with legal and educational assistance. Thank you!
>>>>
>>>> Links:
>>>> ------
>>>> [1] https://sudoroom.org/ai1ec_event/spied-upon-bay-area-premiere-baps/
>>>> [2] http://thepublicschool.org/node/36455
>>>> [3] http://oaklandwiki.org/Domain_Awareness_Center
>>>> [4] http://spiedupon.com/
>>>> [5] http://www.cair.com/
>>>> [6] http://www.freethesf8.org/who.html
>>>> [7] https://oaklandantirepression.wordpress.com/
>>>> [8]
>>>>
>>>> http://araborganizing.org/campaigns-our-work/coalition-to-stop-political-repression/
>>>> [9] http://www.nlgsf.org/national-lawyers-guild-mission-statement
>>>> [10] https://oaklandprivacy.wordpress.com/
>>>>
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