[sudo-discuss] Not a sober space, but...

[Chris Bee]

I'm trying to keep the two issues separate, but I'd say there's some
correlation there.

BTW, I'm on board with the "no sleeping at Sudo" policy now. If that's what
it takes to stay here then I'll do whatever it takes, up to and including
enforcing it (humanely, of course).


-chrisbee


On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 8:19 AM, Max Klein <isalix at gmail.com> wrote:

> Chris, do you think there is a connection between (1) people viewing
> sudoroom as a place where you can come after you drink, and (2) people
> seeing sudoroom as a place where you can sleep overnight?
>
> Max
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 7:17 PM, Chris Bee <hotelcompany at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> ...I feel really awkward proposing this, but lately it seems like the
>> thing to do with some of the newcomers goes something like this-
>>
>> 1. Get loaded somewhere else
>> 2. Head to Sudo
>> 3. ???
>> 4. RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE!!! (and/or pass out, depending)
>>
>> As someone who used to do this on a nightly basis, I kind of get it but
>> even in my finer moments I don't think I would have shown up at a space
>> where people were trying to work and expected a warm reception. And, as
>> someone who has chosen to embrace sobriety I have no quarrel with people
>> who haven't, but since I haven't really developed the patience required to
>> deal with drunk folks yet I tend to retreat or act somewhat distant towards
>> them. Sometimes this results in them chasing me around the space because
>> they want to "hang out," especially if I'm working on music stuff...that's
>> okay if they can do so in a non-disruptive manner, but I'm kind of screwed
>> if they can't so I'm more or less forced to deal with them or (sacre bleu!)
>> leave Sudo to try to get shit done.
>>
>> What I am NOT proposing is making Sudo a sober space. If it comes to
>> that, sure, but as a first measure I think it's heavy handed and doesn't
>> really serve the interests of the community that can have a couple of beers
>> and function equally well as without. I think what I am asking is that we,
>> as a group, need to send the message that Sudo is not the afterparty, and
>> that if it continues to be treated like one that the individuals involved
>> will be asked to leave for the night. I think being somewhat forgiving in
>> this situation is probably not a bad idea...and of course, repeated
>> behavior of this sort will probably be brought up in a meeting (i.e. is
>> having ***** around worth it?) and appropriate action will be taken.
>>
>> Needless to say, Sudo/BAPS events would be more or less exempt since the
>> actual drinking will be taking place here and any situations that arise
>> from said drinking will be dealt with as needed.
>>
>> I would like to hear what everyone has to say about this.
>>
>> -chrisbee
>>
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