[sudo-discuss] Not a sober space, but...

Max Klein isalix at gmail.com
Mon Feb 17 08:19:11 PST 2014


Chris, do you think there is a connection between (1) people viewing
sudoroom as a place where you can come after you drink, and (2) people
seeing sudoroom as a place where you can sleep overnight?

Max


On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 7:17 PM, Chris Bee <hotelcompany at gmail.com> wrote:

> ...I feel really awkward proposing this, but lately it seems like the
> thing to do with some of the newcomers goes something like this-
>
> 1. Get loaded somewhere else
> 2. Head to Sudo
> 3. ???
> 4. RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE!!! (and/or pass out, depending)
>
> As someone who used to do this on a nightly basis, I kind of get it but
> even in my finer moments I don't think I would have shown up at a space
> where people were trying to work and expected a warm reception. And, as
> someone who has chosen to embrace sobriety I have no quarrel with people
> who haven't, but since I haven't really developed the patience required to
> deal with drunk folks yet I tend to retreat or act somewhat distant towards
> them. Sometimes this results in them chasing me around the space because
> they want to "hang out," especially if I'm working on music stuff...that's
> okay if they can do so in a non-disruptive manner, but I'm kind of screwed
> if they can't so I'm more or less forced to deal with them or (sacre bleu!)
> leave Sudo to try to get shit done.
>
> What I am NOT proposing is making Sudo a sober space. If it comes to that,
> sure, but as a first measure I think it's heavy handed and doesn't really
> serve the interests of the community that can have a couple of beers and
> function equally well as without. I think what I am asking is that we, as a
> group, need to send the message that Sudo is not the afterparty, and that
> if it continues to be treated like one that the individuals involved will
> be asked to leave for the night. I think being somewhat forgiving in this
> situation is probably not a bad idea...and of course, repeated behavior of
> this sort will probably be brought up in a meeting (i.e. is having *****
> around worth it?) and appropriate action will be taken.
>
> Needless to say, Sudo/BAPS events would be more or less exempt since the
> actual drinking will be taking place here and any situations that arise
> from said drinking will be dealt with as needed.
>
> I would like to hear what everyone has to say about this.
>
> -chrisbee
>
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