[sudo-discuss] Call for Facilitators / Participants in a sudo Men's Group

[Jenny Ryan]

Something that might be fruitful is creating a list of resources and
readings that are more easily digestible by geek men in particular, and of
course humans in general. I'm cc'ing Tom from Noisebridge, who's been
organizing a feminist book group for men at Noisebridge over the past
couple of months.

-totally unaffiliated ally of this proposal :)

Jenny
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On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 8:43 PM, Matthew Senate <mattsenate at gmail.com>wrote:

> sorry, not "weekly" I don't know how frequently such a group should meet!
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 8:43 PM, Matthew Senate <mattsenate at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Max, this is great:
>>
>>
>> "Be radical sudo men. Do your dishes, and smash the platetriarchy."
>>
>> But let's also meet and talk, I think it will be fruitful. Please share
>> your availability on this calendar, and we'll start a little weekly meeting
>> group. I favor Mondays in case folks have similar interests:
>>
>> http://when2meet.com/?1557201-cZIKf
>>
>> // Matt
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 7:10 AM, Max Klein <isalix at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> As I see it - or perhaps I am wanting to see it this way - this Men's
>>> group's purpose would be to combat mindlessly performing inculcated
>>> patriarchal motions. And in the process of de-conditioning yourself as a
>>> "man", becoming a convincing, subtle and non-naggy argument for other men
>>> to do the same. Slowly doing what we can do restore a gender equitable
>>> society, from our side (while knowing that we can't do it ourselves, that's
>>> the sort of thinking that got us here in the first place).
>>>
>>> So a thousand yeses to all of the above. But how do we do it? In person
>>> meetings? Too self selecting. Online? Not visible enough. Making a charter?
>>> Toothless. Doing volunteer work? Pointless doting.
>>>
>>> Here's my suggestion, and I'm open to more. Be radical sudo men.
>>> Do your dishes, and smash the platetriarchy.
>>> notconfusing
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 10:01 PM, Ryan Bethencourt <
>>> ryan.bethencourt at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Great idea and I'm in if we can keep the time commitment relatively
>>>> light
>>>> On Feb 19, 2014 9:12 PM, "Matthew Senate" <mattsenate at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  Hey all,
>>>>>
>>>>> Positive responses at the weekly meeting. I started mulling it over
>>>>> more and would like to add:
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm basically reaching out for help to men who would like to actively
>>>>> contribute to improving the performance of gender dynamics and to provide
>>>>> space for healing and support in sudo room. Please consider contributing,
>>>>> no experts required, just an open mind.
>>>>>
>>>>> Max,
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't have any particular resources in mind at the moment, want to
>>>>> be a bit open-ended, see what makes sense, then do some research and
>>>>> document along the way.
>>>>>
>>>>> // Matt
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 7:03 PM, Max B <maxb.personal at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I think its a great idea!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Would you mind linking to some resources that have explanations of
>>>>>> what you're thinking about more specifically? I think people may have very
>>>>>> different ideas of what a men's group might do. I can do some looking
>>>>>> around later if need be.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On February 19, 2014 6:48:50 PM PST, Matthew Senate <
>>>>>> mattsenate at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Hey all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I wanted to reach out for some feedback. Seeking folks who would
>>>>>>> want to facilitate or participate in a men's group.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've previously participated in small groups like this and found
>>>>>>> them beneficial for various reasons. I would like to see if folks have had
>>>>>>> similar or different experiences.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The way I'm thinking about this would culminate in something like a
>>>>>>> regular meeting for men in the sudo room community to discuss relevant
>>>>>>> issues including those of identity, oppression, privilege, patriarchy,
>>>>>>> gender, sexuality, stereotypes, safe space, and mutual support.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This may not be the best or even a viable path to approach these
>>>>>>> topics, but I wanted to throw it out there to see if there is any interest.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Matt
>>>>>>>
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