[sudo-discuss] Call for Facilitators / Participants in a sudo Men's Group

[Matthew Senate]

Thanks Max for filling out your availability! Other interested parties,
please do so here: http://when2meet.com/?1557201-cZIKf

Thanks Jenny for the cc, (Hi Tom), and that sounds like a great first
agenda item for this little cluster, easily done on the sudo room wiki or
Noisebridge wiki, or both.

// Matt


On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 1:47 AM, Jenny Ryan <tunabananas at gmail.com> wrote:

> Something that might be fruitful is creating a list of resources and
> readings that are more easily digestible by geek men in particular, and of
> course humans in general. I'm cc'ing Tom from Noisebridge, who's been
> organizing a feminist book group for men at Noisebridge over the past
> couple of months.
>
> -totally unaffiliated ally of this proposal :)
>
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> On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 8:43 PM, Matthew Senate <mattsenate at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> sorry, not "weekly" I don't know how frequently such a group should meet!
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 8:43 PM, Matthew Senate <mattsenate at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Max, this is great:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Be radical sudo men. Do your dishes, and smash the platetriarchy."
>>>
>>> But let's also meet and talk, I think it will be fruitful. Please share
>>> your availability on this calendar, and we'll start a little weekly meeting
>>> group. I favor Mondays in case folks have similar interests:
>>>
>>> http://when2meet.com/?1557201-cZIKf
>>>
>>> // Matt
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 7:10 AM, Max Klein <isalix at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> As I see it - or perhaps I am wanting to see it this way - this Men's
>>>> group's purpose would be to combat mindlessly performing inculcated
>>>> patriarchal motions. And in the process of de-conditioning yourself as a
>>>> "man", becoming a convincing, subtle and non-naggy argument for other men
>>>> to do the same. Slowly doing what we can do restore a gender equitable
>>>> society, from our side (while knowing that we can't do it ourselves, that's
>>>> the sort of thinking that got us here in the first place).
>>>>
>>>> So a thousand yeses to all of the above. But how do we do it? In person
>>>> meetings? Too self selecting. Online? Not visible enough. Making a charter?
>>>> Toothless. Doing volunteer work? Pointless doting.
>>>>
>>>> Here's my suggestion, and I'm open to more. Be radical sudo men.
>>>> Do your dishes, and smash the platetriarchy.
>>>> notconfusing
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 10:01 PM, Ryan Bethencourt <
>>>> ryan.bethencourt at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Great idea and I'm in if we can keep the time commitment relatively
>>>>> light
>>>>> On Feb 19, 2014 9:12 PM, "Matthew Senate" <mattsenate at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>  Hey all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Positive responses at the weekly meeting. I started mulling it over
>>>>>> more and would like to add:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm basically reaching out for help to men who would like to actively
>>>>>> contribute to improving the performance of gender dynamics and to provide
>>>>>> space for healing and support in sudo room. Please consider contributing,
>>>>>> no experts required, just an open mind.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Max,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't have any particular resources in mind at the moment, want to
>>>>>> be a bit open-ended, see what makes sense, then do some research and
>>>>>> document along the way.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> // Matt
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 7:03 PM, Max B <maxb.personal at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think its a great idea!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Would you mind linking to some resources that have explanations of
>>>>>>> what you're thinking about more specifically? I think people may have very
>>>>>>> different ideas of what a men's group might do. I can do some looking
>>>>>>> around later if need be.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On February 19, 2014 6:48:50 PM PST, Matthew Senate <
>>>>>>> mattsenate at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Hey all,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I wanted to reach out for some feedback. Seeking folks who would
>>>>>>>> want to facilitate or participate in a men's group.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've previously participated in small groups like this and found
>>>>>>>> them beneficial for various reasons. I would like to see if folks have had
>>>>>>>> similar or different experiences.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The way I'm thinking about this would culminate in something like a
>>>>>>>> regular meeting for men in the sudo room community to discuss relevant
>>>>>>>> issues including those of identity, oppression, privilege, patriarchy,
>>>>>>>> gender, sexuality, stereotypes, safe space, and mutual support.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This may not be the best or even a viable path to approach these
>>>>>>>> topics, but I wanted to throw it out there to see if there is any interest.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Matt
>>>>>>>>
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