[sudo-discuss] $ sudo reboot

[Ronald Cotoni]

About the tools. I was at the crucible.  They basically have a room that
has the tools with a window.  I was there for an event so I didn't get to
see it in action or ask but I bet you have to sign tools out and that way
things don't go missing as easy.
On Mar 13, 2014 8:55 AM, "Yardena Cohen" <yardenack at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 2:14 PM, Hol Gaskill <hol at gaskill.com> wrote:
> > Also relevant to reboot and an ongoing concern of mine - the shop area.
>  Is
> > it big enough to be useful as a shop?  How does it compare to other
> > hackerspaces?  Does it need to be co-located with the main space or does
> it
> > make sense to have it offsite?  If we added a satellite workshop
> somewhere
> > else, would the space be more usable for other purposes and make moving
> > everything less of a priority?
>
> Thanks for asking this, Hol. I've been sad about the shop area for a
> while. Some parts have been getting some love recently, and I'm very
> happy about that! Other things have disappeared and become harder to
> find. My last straw was last night, when one of our community members
> came by with a simple need, to file and hacksaw something. We found
> one very large file but not the smaller file we used to have at some
> point. We could not find any hacksaws at all. I know we had some
> before. It felt very symbolic. How can a hackerspace not have a
> hacksaw? We literally cannot hack!
>
> Personally, having all of these different elements in one physical
> space greatly increases the value of everything. While he was visiting
> he told us about the exciting solar panel project he was working on,
> and found potential leads for writing controller software for it. This
> was a conversation that wouldn't have happened if the shop were
> offsite, and I can't help but wonder how many more of these
> interactions we miss out on, by not having a good enough shop area.
>
> While there are challenges to having sawdust and metal shavings in the
> vicinity of laptops and food preparation, I think it's well worth
> meeting them. Noisebridge has a wonderful shop area - at last month's
> reprap building party, Miloh showed me some wonderful tools that had
> stayed around since 2008! All they had to do was enclose it. I think
> for our new space, an enclosed work area is a must. I'm afraid of
> sawing anything at Sudo because it commits me to then spending 10
> minutes trying to track dust down behind a thousand nooks & crannies.
> And I'll still never get it all. People who came just to hack on some
> Javscript will leave coughing and rightfully upset. We took the
> cheap-upfront route, and we've been in debt ever since.
>
> Another example: our particle-board floor has been a huge limitation.
> I can count a number of projects, including a metal-printing one,
> which didn't happen or moved elsewhere because you just can't do it
> safely over our floor. It's unsanitary, a dust/germ/toxin magnet, hard
> to sweep, hard to vacuum, hard to find things you drop, easy to
> dent... We could learn something from Double Union, a space that
> recently opened in SF. When they rented their room, the very first
> thing they did was tear out the carpet and seal the floor in hard
> resin. Imagine the pain we would have avoided if we'd done that in our
> current "Art Studio"! Well worth the money, IMO.
>
> Which, speaking of money, my observation is that a lot of people who
> were involved in Sudo's early stages - 2011 & 2012 - were hoping for
> the fab & maker angle, and were disappointed by our meager facilities
> and started putting their money & energy elsewhere. I think reaching
> out to this crowd should be a component of our reboot. Our values and
> energy are so important - let's try this again. :)
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