[sudo-discuss] shotspotter will be discontinued

Jake jake at spaz.org
Fri Mar 14 16:21:36 PDT 2014


So Gabby are you saying that a person who fires a gun in the city has a 
right to privacy that is more important than the community's right to 
share that information?

also, if you object to calling the police on people who are shooting guns 
in the city, do you have an alternate suggestion or are you volunteering 
to do something about it yourself?

for what its worth, i am not suggesting that the data from a system we 
build would be sent to only the police, but rather to everyone who wants 
to know where and when shots are being fired.

-jake

On Fri, 14 Mar 2014, Gabrielle Silverman wrote:

> 
> You realize it would be extremely controversial if Sudo was involved in building something that called the police on people,
> right?
> 
> I'm just saying...
> 
> Gabby
> 
> On Mar 14, 2014 3:49 PM, "Marc Juul" <juul at labitat.dk> wrote:
>       If combined with a lightning detector and an acceleromter it could pinpoint lightning, earthquakes and large trucks.
>       Also noise pollution mapping. Also add speakers and you could use it in reverse to get steer cops around oakland like
>       a laggy rc car parade.
>
>       On Friday, March 14, 2014, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>             i can't tell if you replied to the list or just privately to me.
>
>             that sounds like it would be fun, but it would be more worthwhile if there were a larger goal to be
>             accomplished, ideally with funding.
>
>             it wouldn't be trivial - what is the right way to record timestamps onto an audio recording from a GPS?
>              perhaps use one of the two audio channels as a SMPTE timing track?  that's kinda ridiculous but there's
>             probably lots of code already written...
>
>             On Fri, 14 Mar 2014, Hol Gaskill wrote:
>
>                   I'd be down to make a few time of flight receivers with you.
>
>                   on Mar 14, 2014, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>                         what do people think of the shotspotter system installed in oakland?
>
>                         it's a network of microphones on telephone poles, each with a GPS (for
>                         a precise clock) and a network connection. When a gunshot-like sound is
>                         detected, they send the sound and its precise timing to a central server
>                         that determines the location of the shot, and tells the police to go
>                         there.
>
>                         some people have expressed concern that the microphones are used to spy on
>                         people, but it would be impossible to hear a conversation from the top of
>                         a telephone pole that wasnt already loud enough to be heard inside nearby
>                         houses (or the phone in your pocket).
>
>                         apparently the city pays $264,000 per year to keep shotspotter going. I
>                         think sudoroom people could do it for much less if they thought it was a
>                         useful thing. They would be discontinuing it to save money, or perhaps to
>                         avoid having to send cops to do actual work once in a while...
>
>                         i mean.. sending police toward the gunfire? sounds like a good idea...
>
>                        
>                   http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/Oakland-cops-aim-to-scrap-gunfire-detecting-5316060.php
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