[sudo-discuss] Startup House
Andrew
andrew at roshambomedia.com
Fri Mar 28 15:12:37 PDT 2014
I don't think anything is going to stop Sudo Room from giving critical
commentary on things posted to the list. The real issue seems that we
should have created a separate thread to talk about "start-up houses" that
wasn't in direct response to a thread asking for a specific kind of help.
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 3:02 PM, GtwoG PublicOhOne <g2g-public01 at att.net>wrote:
>
>
> Pete's "keep the critical commentary to a minimum" = "don't worry, be
> happy." Right, we should only criticise The Government, not entrepreneurs
> (especially never criticise Google or Facebook), and if we're really really
> lucky, some of us might hit the jackpot and make the bigtime bucks. Right.
>
> When I was getting started, it was understood from widespread experience,
> "don't live with your coworkers, you'll drive each other crazy."
>
> 24/7 immersion? No place to escape from work, no time to escape from work.
>
> Double rooms? No privacy or solitude, even when you're sleeping.
>
> Manage a tech biz that's also a collective household? "Item 3 at today's
> Board meeting is, Who is leaving dishes in the sink? (the kitchen camera
> wasn't working last week), and item 4 is nasty bathroom smells (the
> bathroom camera is working so we know who you are)."
>
> Relationship problems? Expect them to become a Topic of Conversation with
> all of your coworkers. (What relationship?, you're sleeping next to your
> boss.)
>
> Meat-eaters, vegetarians, vegans? Experience the thrill of "competition"
> over deciding kitchen policy. If you lose, tough, you can eat somewhere
> other than home, if you don't mind being left out of important meetings
> over dinner.
>
> Misc. details of your personal life all subject to group process, and
> don't you dare complain because this all goes on your resume, and getting
> thrown out of the house is Very Bad for your career.
>
> It's Reality TV meets Social Darwinism, and that's a show you ought to
> think twice about starring in.
>
> For those who wish to try it, good luck, but remember that "luck" isn't a
> scientific theory or an engineering principle.
>
> And if you really want 24/7 immersion, join the military, and get your
> hands on some really awesome technology! Who needs big screens and video
> games when you have a real tank?
>
> -G.
>
>
> ======
>
>
>
> On 14-03-28-Fri 12:41 PM, Pete Forsyth wrote:
>
> Want to chime in with a general observation: this thread was started as
> an effort to find one or two people who ARE excited about the idea, and
> want to devote substantial energy to making it happen.
>
> Instead there has been a lot of commentary about why it might NOT be the
> "idea that saves Oakland" or whatever.
>
> I think it's important this list be a resource for people looking for
> partners to hack on stuff with. I am sure I'm like lots of you, 99% of the
> stuff that gets proposed is not going to motivate me to the point of
> rolling up my sleeves and getting to work. Some hacking projects are up
> your alley, some are not.
>
> Couldn't we try to keep the critical commentary to a minimum? So list
> members can find people to work with with more easily?
>
> -Pete
> [[User:Peteforsyth]] on the wiki
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 12:25 PM, Andrew <andrew at roshambomedia.com> wrote:
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>> Did you like how in college you didn't have to worry about taking care of
>> your self or putting any effort in to making friends and connections? Then
>> come live at a start-up house, where money > REAL LIFE.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 12:21 PM, Phil Wolff <pwolff at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> So here's the pitch:
>>>
>>> You want to come to Silicon Valley and be a successful founder while
>>> you're still young, hungry, and unencumbered?
>>>
>>> You'll need a place to stay, great network connectivity, partners (this
>>> is a team sport), connections, and mentors. Location matters: you'll want
>>> ready access to neighborhood conveniences; to San Francisco, Palo Alto, and
>>> San Jose tech/finance hubs; to parking and transit.
>>>
>>> If you're admitted to the Acme House: You'll get...
>>>
>>> - 24x7 immersion in startup culture, just the way Facebook started.
>>> - Great bandwidth, food, whiteboard walls, projectors, infinite
>>> post-its, and everything you need to focus
>>> - Serious networking opportunities within the house, the better to
>>> find partners
>>> - Access to an angel network and other outside networking
>>> opportunities
>>> - Weekly check-ins with our incubator-vetted mentors
>>>
>>> We limit the time you can spend here. We expect you to graduate to your
>>> own space inside a year.
>>>
>>> Here's the reality:
>>>
>>> - This is more expensive than a simple real-estate play. You're
>>> writing checks for recruiting, project staff, common facilities, and
>>> housekeeping (frat house squalor) above and beyond rent. You're selling
>>> rent+incubatorship+camaraderie and have to make that case. Most houses or
>>> apartment buildings in Oakland need some expensive retrofitting to get high
>>> bandwidth and enough power and outlets. Fiber is relatively unavailable
>>> (although San Leandro has local fiber loops). Depending on where you
>>> locate, working things out with neighbors and City permits can be time
>>> consuming and costly.
>>> - The money comes
>>> - from tenants (charging a big premium to people relatively
>>> unwilling to pay it) or
>>> - from investors (who subsidize the house in exchange for equity
>>> or rights to equity) or
>>> - from collateral sources (producers of a reality TV show;
>>> sponsors who seek some marketing advantage).
>>> - You have to fight expensive churn: very high startup failure
>>> rates drive tenants out, there's drama from close quarters, and tenants
>>> move out if they find outside funding or co-founders living elsewhere in
>>> the Bay. Normal landlords seek long term tenants who pay on time without
>>> fuss.
>>>
>>> So it's tough.
>>>
>>> It would really help if the house has a tight focus. B2B Growth Hacks
>>> startups. Neurochem tech startups. Wearables/fashion/QS consumer startups.
>>> Health/clinical startups. This assures a more valuable space design (e.g.
>>> arduino startups would need a good hacker space) more synergy, better
>>> chances of connections having value, and an easier time attracting
>>> partners, investors, media.
>>>
>>> - Phil
>>>
>>>
>>> Phil Wolff
>>>
>>> pwolff at gmail.com
>>> skype:evanwolf
>>>
>>> +1-510-343-5664
>>>
>>> http://about.me/evanwolf bio
>>> http://twitter.com/evanwolf @
>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/philwolff cv
>>> http://LetMyDataGo.org blog
>>> http://www.facebook.com/philwolff face
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 10:15 AM, Sonja Trauss <sonja.trauss at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don't understand start-up houses - why not rent a house with
>>>> roomates? What is the value added of the start up house?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 8:53 AM, Jehan Tremback <
>>>> jehan.tremback at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> A guy I work with started and ran one in SOMA for a year. I asked
>>>>> whether he would like to help on this, but he is sick of that kind of
>>>>> stuff.
>>>>>
>>>>> They basically took over an empty building (legally), and renovated
>>>>> it into sort of a cross between a hostel and a community home for
>>>>> entrepreneurs (and wantrepreneurs) from out of town.
>>>>>
>>>>> They charged around $1000 a month for a dorm like situation where
>>>>> you would share a room. That's definitely a pretty high price, and may make
>>>>> people want to start yelling about rent-seeking capitalists, but the
>>>>> reality is that they barely turned a profit on that after a year, after
>>>>> legal and construction expenses.
>>>>>
>>>>> They basically spent the whole time fighting the SF zoning
>>>>> bureaucracy, and were really just delaying their inevitable expulsion from
>>>>> the building by the city.
>>>>>
>>>>> You could probably reduce expenses considerably by-
>>>>> 1) using volunteer construction labor under some cooperative scheme
>>>>> (you'll still need to pay a bunch for skilled trades, like electricians and
>>>>> plumbers).
>>>>> 2) either choosing a building zoned appropriately, or not informing
>>>>> the city of your plans to have people live there.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 12:23 AM, David Keenan <dkeenan44 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I've worked for a lot of startups, but what is a 'Startup House'?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tuesday, March 25, 2014, Liberty Madison <libertymadison at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hey!
>>>>>>> Sudoers
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyone on our list skilled in writing business plans?
>>>>>>> Anyone passionate about Start up projects?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A Former Mayor and I are working on seeking funding for a new
>>>>>>> Startup House .
>>>>>>> He suggested I find a team ASAP.
>>>>>>> A person who can write a killer plan while conveying the vision as
>>>>>>> well as a person to develop a splash page for investors.
>>>>>>> And since I know Sudo has so many talented folks I thought I would
>>>>>>> throw it out here first!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you are interested to be a part of this FAST paced project or
>>>>>>> have ideas please message me.
>>>>>>> Would love to hack this out with a Sudoer
>>>>>>> You will be compensated in flat fee or equity once funding is
>>>>>>> secured
>>>>>>> So If you are passionate about startups and want to be a part of a
>>>>>>> cool, fun, innovate project that helps people grow their
>>>>>>> startup/project/invention please
>>>>>>> reach out
>>>>>>> libertymadison at gmail.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 415.937.3785 Text/Talk
>>>>>>> About.me/LibertyMadison <http://about.me/LibertyMadison>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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