[sudo-discuss] WOSP – City of Oakland’s Plan for Gentrification: A Target For Anti-Displacement Activity : Indybay

[Marcus Owens]

Suburban living is not conducive generating value in an
innovation/cognitive economy. The suburbs, and the externality of time
spent in commute, like increasing privatization in other spheres, will be
the burden of the poor in the future.

Just saying "rich people should live in the suburbs" is not only dumb but
it obscures the actual dynamics of what is driving contemporary urban
development. The mission was working class because a large labor force was
needed in the nearby working waterfront and industrial zones. That mode of
production is gone and isn't coming back.

That's why as Sonja says we need to use the excess capital now to build as
much housing and infrastructure as possible in ways that is socially and
environmentally acceptable. Unlike Sonja I don't think speculative luxury
projects trickle down, but are rather flipped from investor to investor and
never inhabited.

m

On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 6:20 PM, Andrew <andrew at roshambomedia.com> wrote:

> "Forcing people into the suburbs is bad for those people, and bad for the
> environment. If you're anti urban development, you're pro-freeway."
>
> I'm pro subway, we should have an actual one in the bay area. at this
> point rich people should be living in the suburbs not in the cities. I mean
> this is a tech boom. Which means for most jobs that are making a ton a
> money you can work anywhere, so work from your swanky apartment in Concord
> or Walnut Creek, not in The Mission. Makes sense to me.
>
>
> On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 4:41 PM, The Doctor <drwho at virtadpt.net> wrote:
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>> On 05/17/2014 12:17 PM, Sonja Trauss wrote:
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>> > The causation is backwards here. The rich people are coming/ here
>> > no matter what. THATS WHY developers and cities want to build. They
>> > see an
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>> The argument can be made that people are coming here because they can
>> afford it, and they think that starting here will give them a chance
>> to get rich.
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