[sudo-discuss] pidgeon (human) trying to squat sudoroom / the omni

Tue Oct 14 19:31:48 PDT 2014

I should also add to this thread that my phone, left behind in la commune
after the unconference, disappeared sometime in the last 48 hours. It's
important that we only vouch for people we sincerely trust, and otherwise
trust each other to be reasonably protective of ensuring the safety of the
space.

None of what I just wrote necessarily applies to the situation with
Pidgeon, but rather is riffing off of Jake's call to be more cautious about
who we let (and let linger, especially) in the space.

Jenny
http://jennyryan.net
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http://thevirtualcampfire.org
http://technomadic.tumblr.com

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 "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories."
-Laurie Anderson

"Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it."
 -Hannah Arendt

"To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."
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On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 7:18 PM, Jenny Ryan <tunabananas at gmail.com> wrote:

> Jeremy is not officially a member of sudo room.
>
> Obviously, i consider Jeremy a sudoer and friend, but he's never applied
> for membership and as such is unable to vouch for Pidgeon.
>
> Jenny
> http://jennyryan.net
> http://thepyre.org
> http://thevirtualcampfire.org
> http://technomadic.tumblr.com
>
> `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
>  "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories."
> -Laurie Anderson
>
> "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it."
>  -Hannah Arendt
>
> "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."
> -Stéphane Mallarmé
> ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
>
> On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 6:38 PM, niki <niki.shelley at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Sorry! I told them.
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 6:29 PM, niki <niki.shelley at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Pidgeon has been here all day today (and is still here). I told him he
>>> needed a member of a member collective to vouch for him in order to be here
>>> and Jeremy agreed to do so.
>>>
>>> N
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 2:53 PM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> slightly tall, thin, male-bodied person with long wavy black hair all
>>>> on one side of the head.  no facial hair.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 14 Oct 2014, Patrik D'haeseleer wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Is there a picture of this Pidgeon person somewhere? No idea who they
>>>>> is.
>>>>>
>>>>> Patrik
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 1:19 AM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>>>>>       last night (sunday) as the last of us were getting ready to
>>>>> leave after a long day of BACH, i noticed that Pidgeon was sitting alone in
>>>>> CCL
>>>>>       with headphones in and using a laptop.
>>>>>
>>>>>       [pidgeon prefers the pronoun "they" but it is a single person]
>>>>>
>>>>>       knowing that this person made trouble at noisebridge in the
>>>>> past, and assuming that they were trying to squat the omni, i went up and
>>>>> gave
>>>>>       notice that "we are getting ready to leave and close up" and
>>>>> Pidgeon took the hint and started packing up their backpack...
>>>>>
>>>>>       twenty minutes later pidgeon was still slowly gathering things
>>>>> together to get ready to leave.. it was annoyingly obvious that they were
>>>>>       trying to delay leaving so that I would leave first and they
>>>>> could stay.
>>>>>
>>>>>       tonight, Korl mentioned that Pidgeon was present but did not
>>>>> seem to be anyone's guest, and I agreed that they were here without anyone's
>>>>>       sponsorship of any kind.  A person with no member-sponsor
>>>>> present can be asked to leave for no reason, but before doing that I went
>>>>> to speak
>>>>>       with others present about the situation.
>>>>>
>>>>>       No one present claimed Pidgeon as their guest, or objected to
>>>>> asking them to leave.  I mentioned this to marc and started posting the
>>>>>       following to irc:
>>>>>       https://www.noisebridge.net/pipermail/noisebridge-discuss/
>>>>> 2014-February/042456.html
>>>>>       https://www.noisebridge.net/pipermail/noisebridge-discuss/
>>>>> 2013-October/039972.html
>>>>>
>>>>>       a minute later marc returned from a "sweep" of the building and
>>>>> found Pidgeon in a downstairs room with the door pulled shut, getting
>>>>>       comfortable, lying on their belly listening to music.
>>>>>
>>>>>       Marc asked if they were part of a collective, Pidgeon said they
>>>>> were not, and Marc said that we are not open to the public and asked them to
>>>>>       leave.
>>>>>
>>>>>       please be aware that people are already trying to squat the omni
>>>>> and it will only get more intense.  I have no patience for this because I
>>>>>       feel that the omni is more valuable to us as a community space,
>>>>> shared for all, rather than a big building to be turned into private
>>>>> quarters
>>>>>       for the few who care little enough about their community to do
>>>>> something like that.
>>>>>
>>>>>       Noisebridge regularly has problems with people sleeping on top
>>>>> of the elevator, above the loft areas, and in the basement of the building,
>>>>> and
>>>>>       their building is not nearly as cavernous and expansive as ours.
>>>>>
>>>>>       -jake
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>>>>>
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