[sudo-discuss] pidgeon (human) trying to squat sudoroom / the omni

johanna faust female.faust at gmail.com
Wed Oct 15 08:15:25 PDT 2014 

((does jeremy know he is not a member?))


(sorry jenny i meant reply to all)

On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 7:31 PM, Jenny Ryan <tunabananas at gmail.com> wrote:

> I should also add to this thread that my phone, left behind in la commune
> after the unconference, disappeared sometime in the last 48 hours. It's
> important that we only vouch for people we sincerely trust, and otherwise
> trust each other to be reasonably protective of ensuring the safety of the
> space.
>
> None of what I just wrote necessarily applies to the situation with
> Pidgeon, but rather is riffing off of Jake's call to be more cautious about
> who we let (and let linger, especially) in the space.
>
> Jenny
> http://jennyryan.net
> http://thepyre.org
> http://thevirtualcampfire.org
> http://technomadic.tumblr.com
>
> `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
>  "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories."
> -Laurie Anderson
>
> "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it."
>  -Hannah Arendt
>
> "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."
> -Stéphane Mallarmé
> ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
>
> On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 7:18 PM, Jenny Ryan <tunabananas at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Jeremy is not officially a member of sudo room.
>>
>> Obviously, i consider Jeremy a sudoer and friend, but he's never applied
>> for membership and as such is unable to vouch for Pidgeon.
>>
>> Jenny
>> http://jennyryan.net
>> http://thepyre.org
>> http://thevirtualcampfire.org
>> http://technomadic.tumblr.com
>>
>> `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
>>  "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories."
>> -Laurie Anderson
>>
>> "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining
>> it."
>>  -Hannah Arendt
>>
>> "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."
>> -Stéphane Mallarmé
>> ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 6:38 PM, niki <niki.shelley at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry! I told them.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 6:29 PM, niki <niki.shelley at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Pidgeon has been here all day today (and is still here). I told him he
>>>> needed a member of a member collective to vouch for him in order to be here
>>>> and Jeremy agreed to do so.
>>>>
>>>> N
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 2:53 PM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> slightly tall, thin, male-bodied person with long wavy black hair all
>>>>> on one side of the head.  no facial hair.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 14 Oct 2014, Patrik D'haeseleer wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Is there a picture of this Pidgeon person somewhere? No idea who they
>>>>>> is.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Patrik
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 1:19 AM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>>>>>>       last night (sunday) as the last of us were getting ready to
>>>>>> leave after a long day of BACH, i noticed that Pidgeon was sitting alone in
>>>>>> CCL
>>>>>>       with headphones in and using a laptop.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       [pidgeon prefers the pronoun "they" but it is a single person]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       knowing that this person made trouble at noisebridge in the
>>>>>> past, and assuming that they were trying to squat the omni, i went up and
>>>>>> gave
>>>>>>       notice that "we are getting ready to leave and close up" and
>>>>>> Pidgeon took the hint and started packing up their backpack...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       twenty minutes later pidgeon was still slowly gathering things
>>>>>> together to get ready to leave.. it was annoyingly obvious that they were
>>>>>>       trying to delay leaving so that I would leave first and they
>>>>>> could stay.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       tonight, Korl mentioned that Pidgeon was present but did not
>>>>>> seem to be anyone's guest, and I agreed that they were here without anyone's
>>>>>>       sponsorship of any kind.  A person with no member-sponsor
>>>>>> present can be asked to leave for no reason, but before doing that I went
>>>>>> to speak
>>>>>>       with others present about the situation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       No one present claimed Pidgeon as their guest, or objected to
>>>>>> asking them to leave.  I mentioned this to marc and started posting the
>>>>>>       following to irc:
>>>>>>       https://www.noisebridge.net/pipermail/noisebridge-discuss/
>>>>>> 2014-February/042456.html
>>>>>>       https://www.noisebridge.net/pipermail/noisebridge-discuss/
>>>>>> 2013-October/039972.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       a minute later marc returned from a "sweep" of the building and
>>>>>> found Pidgeon in a downstairs room with the door pulled shut, getting
>>>>>>       comfortable, lying on their belly listening to music.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       Marc asked if they were part of a collective, Pidgeon said they
>>>>>> were not, and Marc said that we are not open to the public and asked them to
>>>>>>       leave.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       please be aware that people are already trying to squat the
>>>>>> omni and it will only get more intense.  I have no patience for this
>>>>>> because I
>>>>>>       feel that the omni is more valuable to us as a community space,
>>>>>> shared for all, rather than a big building to be turned into private
>>>>>> quarters
>>>>>>       for the few who care little enough about their community to do
>>>>>> something like that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       Noisebridge regularly has problems with people sleeping on top
>>>>>> of the elevator, above the loft areas, and in the basement of the building,
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>       their building is not nearly as cavernous and expansive as ours.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       -jake
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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