[sudo-discuss] Dia de los Muertos fundraiser: is happening?

[Hep Svadja]

Bringing this back to the list because, as per usual I do not enjoy being
contacted offlist and berated about my culture, or berated about white
people's entitlement to my culture.

This is a problem.

-hep

On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 5:32 PM, Sonja Trauss <sonja.trauss at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I'm from the east coast, Philadelphia. Philadelphia is 45,45,10 black,
> white, Hispanic (mostly Puerto Rican) + Asian (Cambodian, Vietnamese,
> Filipino, Korean and Chinese). As you can maybe imagine, day of the dead is
> really not a thing in Philadlephia. When I lived there, I never went to a
> DD party, or even really had heard of it.
>
> Here, in the bay, the racial/ethnic distribution is way different. I never
> meet Puerto Ricans any more, and there are way fewer blacks. There are more
> Asians and Hispanics. Not only is the current Hispanic population here
> bigger, this area was settled by Spanish soldiers (unlike Philadelphia,
> settled by Dutch and English mostly. Also some Germans). The Spanish
> settler influence is all over - in names, in the types of old buildings.
> The white people I meet here are Way more likely to speak Spanish than the
> people I grew up with. the white people I meet here know more about Mexico
> and Central America than the ppl back east. The point is, California is a
> way more Hispanic part of the US overall than anywhere I lived before.
>
> Therefore, it is not surprising at all to see way more DD. Moreover, it
> doesn't seem strange to me that people who live near each other
> would celebrate the same holidays. The thing that makes many Hispanics
> celebrate day of the dead (seeing Hispanics celebrate day of the dead) also
> makes white people celebrate day of the dead.
> Put another way, is it weird to you how many atheists and non-Christians
> in America celebrate Christmas? Probably not - you can see that at on
> December 25th, Christmas is just the thing to do.
> When you see white people celebrating DD here, it's not because they want
> to steal your holiday, it's because your culture is pervasive here.
> Does that make sense?
>
>
>
> On Friday, October 24, 2014, Hep Svadja <hepkitten at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> hi guys:
>>
>> a little bothered by the cultural appropriation of this event. as a Bay
>> Area Hispanic I find it quite strange when groups of mostly white people
>> with no ties to the actual culture of ddlm host events not in the actual
>> spirit of this extremely reverent Hispanic holiday. basically if you don't
>> build an ofrenda on your ancestors' graves every year i find it really
>> problematic to be jumping aboard this holiday as you are clearly not of
>> this culture. using it as an excuse for a dance party is even more
>> questionable as is encouraging people with no understanding of this
>> cultural holiday to dress up, which i understand is for the best of reasons
>> but also pretty exploitative of a culture you don't belong to.  what is
>> wrong with just making this a Halloween party and not contributing to the
>> ongoing exploitation of local Hispanic communities of color?
>>
>> -hep
>>
>> * edited this to be less of a jerk.
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 1:54 PM, yar <yardenack at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Lesley Bell <zvezdalune at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Hello!
>>> >
>>> > The Omni needs funds.  Dia de los Muertos is a thing. We would like to
>>> > introduce new people to the space and expand our community.
>>> >
>>> > I have attached a flyer for a possible event, a funky
>>> transhumanist/Dia de
>>> > los Muertos themed costume ball.  Should this happen? Is there a reason
>>> > anyone would like to block?
>>> >
>>> > Also, steampunk zombies! Mechanical corpses! Post-singularity glittery
>>> > things covered in LEDs! Ordinary awesome humans!
>>>
>>> Looks fun! Right now the way to book events is:
>>>
>>> 1) check the calendar for conflicts:
>>> https://omnicommons.org/wiki/Calendar
>>>
>>> 2) submit this form: bit.ly/omniballroom
>>>
>>> Full explanation and future changes to the process will go here:
>>> https://omnicommons.org/wiki/How_to_book_events
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>>
>>
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