[sudo-discuss] Dia de los Muertos fundraiser: is happening?

[Hep Svadja]

Also this would be a stellar time for white allies interested in social
justice and supporting minority voices to take up the heavy lifting of
explaining why this is all problematic so I do not have to spend more hours
on this topic as the sole voice speaking up and educating.

-hep

On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 5:34 PM, Hep Svadja <hepkitten at gmail.com> wrote:

> Bringing this back to the list because, as per usual I do not enjoy being
> contacted offlist and berated about my culture, or berated about white
> people's entitlement to my culture.
>
> This is a problem.
>
> -hep
>
> On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 5:32 PM, Sonja Trauss <sonja.trauss at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I'm from the east coast, Philadelphia. Philadelphia is 45,45,10 black,
>> white, Hispanic (mostly Puerto Rican) + Asian (Cambodian, Vietnamese,
>> Filipino, Korean and Chinese). As you can maybe imagine, day of the dead is
>> really not a thing in Philadlephia. When I lived there, I never went to a
>> DD party, or even really had heard of it.
>>
>> Here, in the bay, the racial/ethnic distribution is way different. I
>> never meet Puerto Ricans any more, and there are way fewer blacks. There
>> are more Asians and Hispanics. Not only is the current Hispanic population
>> here bigger, this area was settled by Spanish soldiers (unlike
>> Philadelphia, settled by Dutch and English mostly. Also some Germans). The
>> Spanish settler influence is all over - in names, in the types of old
>> buildings. The white people I meet here are Way more likely to speak
>> Spanish than the people I grew up with. the white people I meet here know
>> more about Mexico and Central America than the ppl back east. The point is,
>> California is a way more Hispanic part of the US overall than anywhere I
>> lived before.
>>
>> Therefore, it is not surprising at all to see way more DD. Moreover, it
>> doesn't seem strange to me that people who live near each other
>> would celebrate the same holidays. The thing that makes many Hispanics
>> celebrate day of the dead (seeing Hispanics celebrate day of the dead) also
>> makes white people celebrate day of the dead.
>> Put another way, is it weird to you how many atheists and non-Christians
>> in America celebrate Christmas? Probably not - you can see that at on
>> December 25th, Christmas is just the thing to do.
>> When you see white people celebrating DD here, it's not because they want
>> to steal your holiday, it's because your culture is pervasive here.
>> Does that make sense?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, October 24, 2014, Hep Svadja <hepkitten at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> hi guys:
>>>
>>> a little bothered by the cultural appropriation of this event. as a Bay
>>> Area Hispanic I find it quite strange when groups of mostly white people
>>> with no ties to the actual culture of ddlm host events not in the actual
>>> spirit of this extremely reverent Hispanic holiday. basically if you don't
>>> build an ofrenda on your ancestors' graves every year i find it really
>>> problematic to be jumping aboard this holiday as you are clearly not of
>>> this culture. using it as an excuse for a dance party is even more
>>> questionable as is encouraging people with no understanding of this
>>> cultural holiday to dress up, which i understand is for the best of reasons
>>> but also pretty exploitative of a culture you don't belong to.  what is
>>> wrong with just making this a Halloween party and not contributing to the
>>> ongoing exploitation of local Hispanic communities of color?
>>>
>>> -hep
>>>
>>> * edited this to be less of a jerk.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 1:54 PM, yar <yardenack at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Lesley Bell <zvezdalune at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > Hello!
>>>> >
>>>> > The Omni needs funds.  Dia de los Muertos is a thing. We would like to
>>>> > introduce new people to the space and expand our community.
>>>> >
>>>> > I have attached a flyer for a possible event, a funky
>>>> transhumanist/Dia de
>>>> > los Muertos themed costume ball.  Should this happen? Is there a
>>>> reason
>>>> > anyone would like to block?
>>>> >
>>>> > Also, steampunk zombies! Mechanical corpses! Post-singularity glittery
>>>> > things covered in LEDs! Ordinary awesome humans!
>>>>
>>>> Looks fun! Right now the way to book events is:
>>>>
>>>> 1) check the calendar for conflicts:
>>>> https://omnicommons.org/wiki/Calendar
>>>>
>>>> 2) submit this form: bit.ly/omniballroom
>>>>
>>>> Full explanation and future changes to the process will go here:
>>>> https://omnicommons.org/wiki/How_to_book_events
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