[sudo-discuss] [omni-building] [omni-discuss] Accessibility Liaison?

[niki]

Ok. I will write her back and tell her that because not every person who
enters the doors of the Omni is able to occupy a place of absolutely pure
ideological perfection, we will not be addressing these issues in any
meaningful way.

N

On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 10:31 PM, Ryan <yandoryn at gmail.com> wrote:

> It's not just one person or one situation. And it's not always in an
> aggressive way. And it's not just an issue of not caring (although I have
> experienced that). It's an issue of feasibility.
>
> I've heard snowball arguments. I know that Material Print Machine tries
> their hardest to be chemically sensitive but cannot function without some
> volatile chemicals that can cause problems.
>
> If we got some serious ventilation going on, maybe we'd be able to deal
> with CCL and sudo. But the 3D printers could be an issue.
>
> And the few times I've tried to broach this subject, I have hit hard
> walls. I've also had a lot of support. But I've also heard a lot of people
> basically say "it'd be too hard to care about such a small minority."
>
> I just think that anyone who is going to be dealing with this at the Omni
> needs to know that not everyone is on board and that they're going to hear
> some really insensitive stuff. From people you might not expect. My request
> to have the Omni ban simply *spraying of perfume in the space* left me in
> tears about ready to leave the space because of reactions like this from
> many members.
>
> I did have a specific issue with one member who I try not to interact with
> now, who followed me out and proceeded to become aggressive and tell me I
> can't survive in the real world, but that was handled for the most part.
> That's not the issue, though.
>
> I don't know. My brain isn't really functioning well (brain fog yay) but I
> think anyone dealing with accessibility at the Omni, especially things
> people are less versed in than physical (which is bad enough to deal with)
> should be well aware that while some people may be totally on board, there
> are some people who are solidly against.
>
> On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 10:21 PM, Laura Turiano <scylla at riseup.net> wrote:
>
>>  I would like to know who said that, Ryan, so that we can have a
>> conversation with them about their attitude.
>>
>> Laura
>>
>>
>> On 4/19/15 8:09 PM, Ryan wrote:
>>
>> The consistent reaction I've gotten from the community at large is "We
>> don't actually care about people with chemical sensitivities and would
>> actively block any attempts to make the space more accessible to those with
>> respiratory problems who are 'asking too much.'"
>>
>>  So, it might be best to be honest with her, rather than pretend like
>> the Omni is actually going to actively work to be accessible.
>>
>>  Sorry if this sounds pessimistic, but eh.
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 8:06 PM, niki <niki.shelley at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello friends,
>>>
>>>  Someone came in today who was very concerned with our efforts to make
>>> our space truly accessible - she was particularly concerned with building
>>> improvements and the impact on those with chemical sensitivities. She was
>>> also concerned with the sound system at today's event as there were some
>>> issues w/it that made it difficult for people to hear.
>>>
>>>  She asked us to not use any materials that will inhibit those with
>>> chemical sensitivities from accessing the space and to create communication
>>> around our accessibility and needs.
>>>
>>>  She asked to see our plan for how we will do this. We don't have this
>>> scoped out currently and I'm wondering if someone would be willing to take
>>> on the task of researching this issue and making recommendations to the
>>> building Working Group as well as drawing up a basic outline for providing
>>> greater accessibility.
>>>
>>>  Can someone volunteer for this?
>>>
>>>  xo
>>>
>>>  N
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
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