[sudo-discuss] [omni-discuss] [omni-building] Accessibility Liaison?

[Ryan]

niki, I understand your exasperation

All I'm trying to say is that someone should be clear to her that there are
quite a few people at the Omni who may be violently opposed to these types
of accessibility requests, even though they seem completely reasonable
because "The community is not some amorphous / boundless resource *nor* is
it some perfect ideological object."

I know I felt personally attacked and invalidated (and still do over a lot
of the accessibility stuff) when bringing up a very similar topic and it
might be useful to warn her that there's a very good and real chance people
might be jerks to her about a very sensitive subject. Or that
her proposals might get ignored/unheeded because the priorities of the
space are elsewhere.

I'm not saying it well because I am tired and personally hurt by a lot of
the accessibility stuff.

"I think it's reasonable to say that we haven't found someone who has the
time / energy to take this on right now and that people who have concerns
around these issues should perhaps wait to engage with us until we're in a
more solid place. "

This is exactly what the Omni should say wrt a lot of accessibility stuff
in my opinion, and not what's been happening. Which is a major reason
there's a lot of hurt.

However, I do think that we *have* found someone who can take this on or at
least help and see if we *can*. She should just uh, be warned that not
everyone's on board.

On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 12:45 PM, Nicholas Oakley <nickoakley510 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Perhaps my reply was unseen ? There are many ways & dimensions for
> accessibility issues.All of our concerns,ideas are important and valid
> .However there are already certain standards that can be applied
> intermediately as the Omni community continues to fine tune and
> congeal its protocol.
>
> On 4/21/15, Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Just reminding people what the original request was about, which was
> > dealing primarily with the use of certain* building materials*:
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 8:06 PM, niki <niki.shelley at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> she was particularly concerned with building improvements and the impact
> >> on those with chemical sensitivities. [...]
> >>
> >> She asked us to not use any materials that will inhibit those with
> >> chemical sensitivities from accessing the space and to create
> >> communication
> >> around our accessibility and needs.
> >>
> >
> > I do think we should use materials that are low in volatile organic
> > compounds (VOCs):
> >
> > - Paint: low-VOC paint is available, and doesn't cost all that much more.
> > Needless to say, also much more pleasant for the painters to work with...
> >
> > - Particle board has a known issue with outgassing formaldehyde
> throughout
> > its lifespan. Sealing it can drastically slow that down. I bet there are
> > low-formaldehyde options available as well, but haven't had time to look
> > into this yet. Looks like there's some formaldehyde-free plywood at least
> >
> > - Drywall / sheetrock: looks like there was a bit of a scare with Chinese
> > sheetrock, and with Chinese materials making it into US-made sheetrock,
> but
> > that may have been mostly an East Coast problem:
> >
> >
> http://www.propublica.org/article/american-made-drywall-emerges-as-potential-danger
> > http://debralynndadd.com/q-a/how-safe-is-sheetrock/
> > "I called up Home Depot – where we had just bought drywall yesterday, and
> > the manager checked with his supplier. *All the California Home Depots
> use
> > natural gypsum mined in Mexico, and their drywall is Greenguard
> certified.
> > He said he thought it was the East Coast that used the synthetic stuff*."
> >
> > This is all just based on 15 minutes of googling - if someone else has
> more
> > time to investigate, that would be greatly appreciated!
> >
> > Patrik
> >
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