[sudo-discuss] ian moon banned

[Patrick O'Doherty]

at the risk of this sounding preachy (it's 100% not intended as such,
but it's hard to convey tone / emotion in text) one of the biggest
contributors in helping pull noisebridge back together was implementing
access control coupled with using the 86 page to effectively document
those who were asked to leave the space.

I realise given the physical layout of both the OMNI and sudo in
particular that any amount of physical access control might be a lot
more difficult (multiple entrances to both the OMNI and sudoroom, and
all the various routes between the rooms in the OMNI) but maybe it's
worth exploring?

a really neat side effect of access control is that all new visitors to
the space interact with someone on arrival, with the cultural
expectation on their host giving them a tour and explaining everything
about the space and its ethos.

lurking in #sudoroom it seems that there is some sort of card system at
the moment? sudobot pipes up occasionally about folks being swiped into
the building. I haven't been to the OMNI since this was put in place,
but is this a card swipe system at the main front entrance?

</$0.02>

p

Jake:
> i think we need to work on more practical and effective ways to keep the
> space free of banned persons at all times.
> 
> what can people do when a banned person repeatedly returns whenever they
> feel like they can get in?  there are no consequences for trying.
> 
> I know that we do not call police for these types of issues, but what
> about telling people that if they return again, the police will be
> called and they will not know it until a cop shows up to grab them?
> 
> Does that go against our values?  If so, what is a reasonable motivator
> to get people to stop returning all the time?
> 
> If the response is "we just need to keep leaning on members and
> volunteers to constantly beg trespassers to leave again" i fear that we
> are going to burn people out faster than we can replace them.
> 
> -jake
> 
> On Tue, 25 Aug 2015, Stephen Whitmore wrote:
> 
>> Not sure if you're aware of it, but Omni/sudo
>> has https://omnicommons.org/wiki/Asked_to_Leave. Photograph existence
>> varies wildly, of
>> course.
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 1:36 PM, Patrik D'haeseleer
>> <patrikd at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>       Ah - so he was already banned anyway,  but was still coming in?
>>
>>       You know,  I have a really hard time putting names to faces. It
>> would be
>>       extremely useful if we actually had photographs of the people
>> that are
>>       banned, similar to noisebridges 86 page. That way we might
>> actually have some
>>       hope of enforcing the bans already in place...
>>
>>       Patrik
>>
>>       On Aug 25, 2015 1:15 PM, "yar" <yardenack at gmail.com> wrote:
>>             On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 1:10 PM, yar <yardenack at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>             > hackerspace inside the Omni, and it sounds like the people
>>             involved
>>             > were not Sudoroom members nor did they claim to be, and the
>>             events
>>
>>             Actually I stand corrected, James Moon applied to be a
>> Sudoroom
>>             member
>>             a couple months ago, before he went on a yelling spree that
>>             scared a
>>             bunch of people away, and was then blocked from membership
>> and
>>             banned.
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