[sudo-discuss] ian moon banned

[Stephen Whitmore]

What did/does Noisebridge's access control look like, that made it so
effective? I know nil on the subject, so I ask for myself and anyone else
who might not know what this entails.

On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 2:44 PM, Patrick O'Doherty <p at trickod.com> wrote:

> at the risk of this sounding preachy (it's 100% not intended as such,
> but it's hard to convey tone / emotion in text) one of the biggest
> contributors in helping pull noisebridge back together was implementing
> access control coupled with using the 86 page to effectively document
> those who were asked to leave the space.
>
> I realise given the physical layout of both the OMNI and sudo in
> particular that any amount of physical access control might be a lot
> more difficult (multiple entrances to both the OMNI and sudoroom, and
> all the various routes between the rooms in the OMNI) but maybe it's
> worth exploring?
>
> a really neat side effect of access control is that all new visitors to
> the space interact with someone on arrival, with the cultural
> expectation on their host giving them a tour and explaining everything
> about the space and its ethos.
>
> lurking in #sudoroom it seems that there is some sort of card system at
> the moment? sudobot pipes up occasionally about folks being swiped into
> the building. I haven't been to the OMNI since this was put in place,
> but is this a card swipe system at the main front entrance?
>
> </$0.02>
>
> p
>
> Jake:
> > i think we need to work on more practical and effective ways to keep the
> > space free of banned persons at all times.
> >
> > what can people do when a banned person repeatedly returns whenever they
> > feel like they can get in?  there are no consequences for trying.
> >
> > I know that we do not call police for these types of issues, but what
> > about telling people that if they return again, the police will be
> > called and they will not know it until a cop shows up to grab them?
> >
> > Does that go against our values?  If so, what is a reasonable motivator
> > to get people to stop returning all the time?
> >
> > If the response is "we just need to keep leaning on members and
> > volunteers to constantly beg trespassers to leave again" i fear that we
> > are going to burn people out faster than we can replace them.
> >
> > -jake
> >
> > On Tue, 25 Aug 2015, Stephen Whitmore wrote:
> >
> >> Not sure if you're aware of it, but Omni/sudo
> >> has https://omnicommons.org/wiki/Asked_to_Leave. Photograph existence
> >> varies wildly, of
> >> course.
> >>
> >> On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 1:36 PM, Patrik D'haeseleer
> >> <patrikd at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>       Ah - so he was already banned anyway,  but was still coming in?
> >>
> >>       You know,  I have a really hard time putting names to faces. It
> >> would be
> >>       extremely useful if we actually had photographs of the people
> >> that are
> >>       banned, similar to noisebridges 86 page. That way we might
> >> actually have some
> >>       hope of enforcing the bans already in place...
> >>
> >>       Patrik
> >>
> >>       On Aug 25, 2015 1:15 PM, "yar" <yardenack at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>             On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 1:10 PM, yar <yardenack at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>             > hackerspace inside the Omni, and it sounds like the people
> >>             involved
> >>             > were not Sudoroom members nor did they claim to be, and
> the
> >>             events
> >>
> >>             Actually I stand corrected, James Moon applied to be a
> >> Sudoroom
> >>             member
> >>             a couple months ago, before he went on a yelling spree that
> >>             scared a
> >>             bunch of people away, and was then blocked from membership
> >> and
> >>             banned.
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