[sudo-discuss] [Mesh] Computers for the Public Setup+ ALERTS (DNS + Speed)
Ryan
yandoryn at gmail.com
Fri Jul 24 18:18:03 PDT 2015
I understand. My concern is primarily that folks with low mobility who
don't use a wheelchair but can't necessarily go up stairs won't have a
terminal if we make it only for wheelchair users.
On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 5:47 PM, Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd at gmail.com>
wrote:
> I was just trying to brainstorm some ways we could avoid providing people
> with a chair, so the station will be more likely to be available to
> wheelchair users, rather than being monopolized for hours by people who
> don't need it.
>
> Patrik
>
> On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 5:34 PM, Ryan <yandoryn at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The average desk/table is about the right height for a wheelchair user,
>> so I'm confused as to why we'd need to have it brought down or use a
>> standing desk. We could use a normal desk and have a chair on wheels, so
>> it's easy to move away.
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 5:31 PM, Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> We could get a few of those steel security cables to tie down laptops.
>>>
>>> How about we have a few standing desk spots in La Commune, with a
>>> security cable long enough for a wheelchair user to put the laptop on their
>>> lap? That should somewhat discourage long-term use by people who don't need
>>> it.
>>>
>>> Of course, actually putting a laptop on your lap is not ideal in terms
>>> of ergonomics. Maybe we could build a small fold-down desk attached to the
>>> wall, and then paint a blue wheelchair symbol on the floor ?
>>>
>>> Patrik
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 11:29 PM, Ryan <yandoryn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I haven't. :/ Maybe it would be better if it were a laptop that's
>>>> somehow secured somewhere but can be put away, so it doesn't take up space
>>>> when not being used by someone who needs it.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 10:08 PM, danarauz at gmail.com <
>>>> danarauz at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Makes sense, Ryan.
>>>>> So, have you found a place where we should work on?
>>>>>
>>>>> Or/and, would you like me to see if I can set the computer you were
>>>>> using (or another) below the desk as I mentioned it to you, so that the
>>>>> display its a better eye level?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 3:28 AM, Ryan <yandoryn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't think they should be near the entrance. If they are, they
>>>>>> will get used instead of the ones upstairs... meaning folks who need an
>>>>>> accessible computer won't be able to use it. Even if we put that they're
>>>>>> reserved for people with disabilities, they'll get used first. I guarantee
>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 9:31 PM, danarauz at gmail.com <
>>>>>> danarauz at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you Jenny, but the credit goes to everyone who organically
>>>>>>> participated; from building the tables and onto the final result.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ryan, I think the ideal would be to have one or two workstations
>>>>>>> near the entrance; but if not possible, then Jenny's idea sounds the best,
>>>>>>> imho.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What do you think?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Ryan <yandoryn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Good to know!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Every time I've come by, it just seems like more and more have
>>>>>>>> accumulated over time. This just felt like critical mass, I guess. Maybe my
>>>>>>>> timing has just been weird.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 6:02 PM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> that's an unusual situation, brought on by some hacker not putting
>>>>>>>>> away whatever they were playing with. usually it's just the imac and a big
>>>>>>>>> monitor.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -jake
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 13 Jul 2015, Ryan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Oh, no, there were 6 monitors over on these tables, not including
>>>>>>>>>> the macs!
>>>>>>>>>> Made the space really unusable for hacking.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 4:55 PM, Kelly Peng <ziqikelly at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> I agree with Jake that those desk/monitor in sudo room are
>>>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>>> for hacking, instead of for facebook/email. Ryan, the 2 Mac
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> one external monitor are mine, and I can remove two of them
>>>>>>>>>> tomorrow
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>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 1:50 PM, Ryan <yandoryn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If they are for hacking, I would suggest they not be used
>>>>>>>>>> for monitor storage. I'd move them myself, if I could
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 13, 2015 1:35 PM, "Jake" <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> those desks in sudoroom are for hacking, not
>>>>>>>>>> for public facebook and email checking -
>>>>>>>>>> that's why we put the public terminals outside
>>>>>>>>>> sudoroom.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> i agree that there should be ground-floor
>>>>>>>>>> accessible public terminals, but not in
>>>>>>>>>> sudoroom (any more than there already are)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -jake
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 13 Jul 2015, Ryan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sitting where the Mac is in sudo,
>>>>>>>>>> I'm thinking these tables might be
>>>>>>>>>> awesome for more "public use" and
>>>>>>>>>> less "using the computers tied to
>>>>>>>>>> other devices." I'd leave a
>>>>>>>>>> bit of space, to make sure people
>>>>>>>>>> have room for crafty-type stuff
>>>>>>>>>> but there's tons of monitors
>>>>>>>>>> sitting here anyway... I'll bring
>>>>>>>>>> it up on Wednesday.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 7:11 AM,
>>>>>>>>>> danarauz at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>> <danarauz at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> That sounds to me;
>>>>>>>>>> thanks! And, when you get
>>>>>>>>>> something ready, I would try to
>>>>>>>>>> leave early from work and meet you
>>>>>>>>>> then.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 9:01 PM,
>>>>>>>>>> Ryan <yandoryn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, I can try and do that
>>>>>>>>>> on Monday!
>>>>>>>>>> Weekends can be tough for me right
>>>>>>>>>> now because I'm only supposed to
>>>>>>>>>> leave the house 2-3 days a week a
>>>>>>>>>> la my physical therapist. But I'll
>>>>>>>>>> get in touch
>>>>>>>>>> after Monday and see what I can
>>>>>>>>>> find.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 6:30 PM,
>>>>>>>>>> danarauz at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>> <danarauz at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Weekends are much easier for
>>>>>>>>>> me to meet you; but if needed,
>>>>>>>>>> weekdays evening is the other
>>>>>>>>>> option.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Anyhow, would you want to go ahead
>>>>>>>>>> and take care of finding the area
>>>>>>>>>> and of getting the okay from the
>>>>>>>>>> corresponding collective? Then we
>>>>>>>>>> can deal
>>>>>>>>>> with the rest of the deets:
>>>>>>>>>> tables, and materials, etc.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Ryan!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 5:41 PM,
>>>>>>>>>> Ryan <yandoryn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Sure! I'll be in sudo by 2
>>>>>>>>>> tomorrow, and while I'm meeting
>>>>>>>>>> someone there to show her how to
>>>>>>>>>> use the laser cutter, I'm sure
>>>>>>>>>> I'll have
>>>>>>>>>> time to help on this as
>>>>>>>>>> well!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 5:25 PM,
>>>>>>>>>> danarauz at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>> <danarauz at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Accessibility. Good point
>>>>>>>>>> Ryan.
>>>>>>>>>> Would you like to work with me and
>>>>>>>>>> see if we can set up accessible
>>>>>>>>>> computers at the first floor?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, and let me know,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 4:42 PM,
>>>>>>>>>> Ryan <yandoryn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Would be really cool if we
>>>>>>>>>> could get some accessible stations
>>>>>>>>>> for the public, rather than
>>>>>>>>>> continuing to put them upstairs.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 7:15 PM,
>>>>>>>>>> danarauz at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>> <danarauz at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hellos,
>>>>>>>>>> Good News!
>>>>>>>>>> We now have a total of 10 new data
>>>>>>>>>> drops at the second floor where
>>>>>>>>>> the computers for the public are.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Four computers are already setup
>>>>>>>>>> and ready to use. The other six
>>>>>>>>>> are already active, so it is
>>>>>>>>>> matter of bringing more
>>>>>>>>>> computers to the table and set
>>>>>>>>>> them up.
>>>>>>>>>> The second one from the left was
>>>>>>>>>> not booting up, and since I had a
>>>>>>>>>> bootable USB with Debian 8 with
>>>>>>>>>> me; well.. I installed
>>>>>>>>>> Debian on it. User name: user
>>>>>>>>>> Password: user Root's password:
>>>>>>>>>> user -Feel free to modify that if
>>>>>>>>>> one wish or if it
>>>>>>>>>> required. I just wanted to have it
>>>>>>>>>> running at least.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I removed all the extra
>>>>>>>>>> unnecessary and/or unsafe
>>>>>>>>>> equipment that was there on that
>>>>>>>>>> table.
>>>>>>>>>> Excuse me that it was brought down
>>>>>>>>>> to one of the tables at Sudo, but
>>>>>>>>>> I was too exhausted that I just
>>>>>>>>>> wanted to go home.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ALERTS:
>>>>>>>>>> DNS: At the time that I left the
>>>>>>>>>> building, 5pm, there were some DNS
>>>>>>>>>> issues. DNS was not resolving.
>>>>>>>>>> Pinging Google's DNS IP 8.8.8.8
>>>>>>>>>> worked, but not when trying the
>>>>>>>>>> domain name. The issue seemed
>>>>>>>>>> intermittent.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> BANDWIDTH: Also, I ran a few speed
>>>>>>>>>> tests and they area about 20Mbps /
>>>>>>>>>> 1.5Mbps.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Hassan, Sierk, and
>>>>>>>>>> Francisco for your help during
>>>>>>>>>> these three days of work.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Daniel
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