[sudo-discuss] [Mesh] Computers for the Public Setup+ ALERTS (DNS + Speed)
Patrik D'haeseleer
patrikd at gmail.com
Fri Jul 24 17:47:40 PDT 2015
I was just trying to brainstorm some ways we could avoid providing people
with a chair, so the station will be more likely to be available to
wheelchair users, rather than being monopolized for hours by people who
don't need it.
Patrik
On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 5:34 PM, Ryan <yandoryn at gmail.com> wrote:
> The average desk/table is about the right height for a wheelchair user, so
> I'm confused as to why we'd need to have it brought down or use a standing
> desk. We could use a normal desk and have a chair on wheels, so it's easy
> to move away.
>
> On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 5:31 PM, Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> We could get a few of those steel security cables to tie down laptops.
>>
>> How about we have a few standing desk spots in La Commune, with a
>> security cable long enough for a wheelchair user to put the laptop on their
>> lap? That should somewhat discourage long-term use by people who don't need
>> it.
>>
>> Of course, actually putting a laptop on your lap is not ideal in terms of
>> ergonomics. Maybe we could build a small fold-down desk attached to the
>> wall, and then paint a blue wheelchair symbol on the floor ?
>>
>> Patrik
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 11:29 PM, Ryan <yandoryn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I haven't. :/ Maybe it would be better if it were a laptop that's
>>> somehow secured somewhere but can be put away, so it doesn't take up space
>>> when not being used by someone who needs it.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 10:08 PM, danarauz at gmail.com <danarauz at gmail.com
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Makes sense, Ryan.
>>>> So, have you found a place where we should work on?
>>>>
>>>> Or/and, would you like me to see if I can set the computer you were
>>>> using (or another) below the desk as I mentioned it to you, so that the
>>>> display its a better eye level?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 3:28 AM, Ryan <yandoryn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I don't think they should be near the entrance. If they are, they will
>>>>> get used instead of the ones upstairs... meaning folks who need an
>>>>> accessible computer won't be able to use it. Even if we put that they're
>>>>> reserved for people with disabilities, they'll get used first. I guarantee
>>>>> it.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 9:31 PM, danarauz at gmail.com <
>>>>> danarauz at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you Jenny, but the credit goes to everyone who organically
>>>>>> participated; from building the tables and onto the final result.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ryan, I think the ideal would be to have one or two workstations near
>>>>>> the entrance; but if not possible, then Jenny's idea sounds the best, imho.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What do you think?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Ryan <yandoryn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Good to know!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Every time I've come by, it just seems like more and more have
>>>>>>> accumulated over time. This just felt like critical mass, I guess. Maybe my
>>>>>>> timing has just been weird.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 6:02 PM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> that's an unusual situation, brought on by some hacker not putting
>>>>>>>> away whatever they were playing with. usually it's just the imac and a big
>>>>>>>> monitor.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -jake
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 13 Jul 2015, Ryan wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Oh, no, there were 6 monitors over on these tables, not including
>>>>>>>>> the macs!
>>>>>>>>> Made the space really unusable for hacking.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 4:55 PM, Kelly Peng <ziqikelly at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I agree with Jake that those desk/monitor in sudo room are
>>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>> for hacking, instead of for facebook/email. Ryan, the 2 Mac
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> one external monitor are mine, and I can remove two of them
>>>>>>>>> tomorrow
>>>>>>>>> night:-)[t?sender=aemlxaWtlbGx5QGdtYWlsLmNvbQ%3D%3D&type=zerocontent&guid=3cfa33
>>>>>>>>> 1d-a593-40bf-95eb-e880a6dd4008] ᐧ
>>>>>>>>> [kywVk6n.gif]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 1:50 PM, Ryan <yandoryn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If they are for hacking, I would suggest they not be used
>>>>>>>>> for monitor storage. I'd move them myself, if I could
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 13, 2015 1:35 PM, "Jake" <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> those desks in sudoroom are for hacking, not
>>>>>>>>> for public facebook and email checking -
>>>>>>>>> that's why we put the public terminals outside
>>>>>>>>> sudoroom.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> i agree that there should be ground-floor
>>>>>>>>> accessible public terminals, but not in
>>>>>>>>> sudoroom (any more than there already are)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -jake
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 13 Jul 2015, Ryan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sitting where the Mac is in sudo,
>>>>>>>>> I'm thinking these tables might be
>>>>>>>>> awesome for more "public use" and
>>>>>>>>> less "using the computers tied to
>>>>>>>>> other devices." I'd leave a
>>>>>>>>> bit of space, to make sure people
>>>>>>>>> have room for crafty-type stuff
>>>>>>>>> but there's tons of monitors
>>>>>>>>> sitting here anyway... I'll bring
>>>>>>>>> it up on Wednesday.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 7:11 AM,
>>>>>>>>> danarauz at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>> <danarauz at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> That sounds to me;
>>>>>>>>> thanks! And, when you get
>>>>>>>>> something ready, I would try to
>>>>>>>>> leave early from work and meet you
>>>>>>>>> then.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 9:01 PM,
>>>>>>>>> Ryan <yandoryn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Yeah, I can try and do that
>>>>>>>>> on Monday!
>>>>>>>>> Weekends can be tough for me right
>>>>>>>>> now because I'm only supposed to
>>>>>>>>> leave the house 2-3 days a week a
>>>>>>>>> la my physical therapist. But I'll
>>>>>>>>> get in touch
>>>>>>>>> after Monday and see what I can
>>>>>>>>> find.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 6:30 PM,
>>>>>>>>> danarauz at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>> <danarauz at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Weekends are much easier for
>>>>>>>>> me to meet you; but if needed,
>>>>>>>>> weekdays evening is the other
>>>>>>>>> option.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Anyhow, would you want to go ahead
>>>>>>>>> and take care of finding the area
>>>>>>>>> and of getting the okay from the
>>>>>>>>> corresponding collective? Then we
>>>>>>>>> can deal
>>>>>>>>> with the rest of the deets:
>>>>>>>>> tables, and materials, etc.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks Ryan!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 5:41 PM,
>>>>>>>>> Ryan <yandoryn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Sure! I'll be in sudo by 2
>>>>>>>>> tomorrow, and while I'm meeting
>>>>>>>>> someone there to show her how to
>>>>>>>>> use the laser cutter, I'm sure
>>>>>>>>> I'll have
>>>>>>>>> time to help on this as
>>>>>>>>> well!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 5:25 PM,
>>>>>>>>> danarauz at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>> <danarauz at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Accessibility. Good point
>>>>>>>>> Ryan.
>>>>>>>>> Would you like to work with me and
>>>>>>>>> see if we can set up accessible
>>>>>>>>> computers at the first floor?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks, and let me know,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 4:42 PM,
>>>>>>>>> Ryan <yandoryn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Would be really cool if we
>>>>>>>>> could get some accessible stations
>>>>>>>>> for the public, rather than
>>>>>>>>> continuing to put them upstairs.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 7:15 PM,
>>>>>>>>> danarauz at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>> <danarauz at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hellos,
>>>>>>>>> Good News!
>>>>>>>>> We now have a total of 10 new data
>>>>>>>>> drops at the second floor where
>>>>>>>>> the computers for the public are.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Four computers are already setup
>>>>>>>>> and ready to use. The other six
>>>>>>>>> are already active, so it is
>>>>>>>>> matter of bringing more
>>>>>>>>> computers to the table and set
>>>>>>>>> them up.
>>>>>>>>> The second one from the left was
>>>>>>>>> not booting up, and since I had a
>>>>>>>>> bootable USB with Debian 8 with
>>>>>>>>> me; well.. I installed
>>>>>>>>> Debian on it. User name: user
>>>>>>>>> Password: user Root's password:
>>>>>>>>> user -Feel free to modify that if
>>>>>>>>> one wish or if it
>>>>>>>>> required. I just wanted to have it
>>>>>>>>> running at least.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I removed all the extra
>>>>>>>>> unnecessary and/or unsafe
>>>>>>>>> equipment that was there on that
>>>>>>>>> table.
>>>>>>>>> Excuse me that it was brought down
>>>>>>>>> to one of the tables at Sudo, but
>>>>>>>>> I was too exhausted that I just
>>>>>>>>> wanted to go home.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ALERTS:
>>>>>>>>> DNS: At the time that I left the
>>>>>>>>> building, 5pm, there were some DNS
>>>>>>>>> issues. DNS was not resolving.
>>>>>>>>> Pinging Google's DNS IP 8.8.8.8
>>>>>>>>> worked, but not when trying the
>>>>>>>>> domain name. The issue seemed
>>>>>>>>> intermittent.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> BANDWIDTH: Also, I ran a few speed
>>>>>>>>> tests and they area about 20Mbps /
>>>>>>>>> 1.5Mbps.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks Hassan, Sierk, and
>>>>>>>>> Francisco for your help during
>>>>>>>>> these three days of work.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>>>>>>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>>>>>>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>>>>>>>> Help open a people-powered common
>>>>>>>>> space in Oakland, California!
>>>>>>>>> https://omnicommons.org/donate
>>>>>>>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>>>>>>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>>>>>>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> sudo-discuss mailing list
>>>>>>>>> sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org
>>>>>>>>> https://sudoroom.org/lists/listinfo/sudo-discuss
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Currently Reading
>>>>>>>>> Book Cover
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>>>>>>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>>>>>>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>>>>>>>> Help open a people-powered common
>>>>>>>>> space in Oakland, California!
>>>>>>>>> https://omnicommons.org/donate
>>>>>>>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>>>>>>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>>>>>>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Currently Reading
>>>>>>>>> Book Cover
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>>>>>>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>>>>>>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>>>>>>>> Help open a people-powered common
>>>>>>>>> space in Oakland, California!
>>>>>>>>> https://omnicommons.org/donate
>>>>>>>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>>>>>>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>>>>>>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Currently Reading
>>>>>>>>> Book Cover
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>>>>>>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>>>>>>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>>>>>>>> Help open a people-powered common
>>>>>>>>> space in Oakland, California!
>>>>>>>>> https://omnicommons.org/donate
>>>>>>>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>>>>>>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>>>>>>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Currently Reading
>>>>>>>>> Book Cover
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> mesh mailing list
>>>>>>>>> mesh at lists.sudoroom.org
>>>>>>>>> https://sudoroom.org/lists/listinfo/mesh
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Kelly
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Currently Reading
>>>>>>>>> Book Cover
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Currently Reading
>>>>>>> <https://www.goodreads.com/user/email_signature_destination/35215676?utm_medium=reading_link&utm_source=email_signature>
>>>>>>> [image: Book Cover]
>>>>>>> <https://www.goodreads.com/user/email_signature_destination/35215676?utm_medium=cover&utm_source=email_signature>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> mesh mailing list
>>>>>>> mesh at lists.sudoroom.org
>>>>>>> https://sudoroom.org/lists/listinfo/mesh
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>>>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>>>>> Help open a people-powered common space in Oakland, California!
>>>>>> https://omnicommons.org/donate
>>>>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>>>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Currently Reading
>>>>> <https://www.goodreads.com/user/email_signature_destination/35215676?utm_medium=reading_link&utm_source=email_signature>
>>>>> [image: Book Cover]
>>>>> <https://www.goodreads.com/user/email_signature_destination/35215676?utm_medium=cover&utm_source=email_signature>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>>> Help open a people-powered common space in Oakland, California!
>>>> https://omnicommons.org/donate
>>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Currently Reading
>>> <https://www.goodreads.com/user/email_signature_destination/35215676?utm_medium=reading_link&utm_source=email_signature>
>>> [image: Book Cover]
>>> <https://www.goodreads.com/user/email_signature_destination/35215676?utm_medium=cover&utm_source=email_signature>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> sudo-discuss mailing list
>>> sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org
>>> https://sudoroom.org/lists/listinfo/sudo-discuss
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Currently Reading
> <https://www.goodreads.com/user/email_signature_destination/35215676?utm_medium=reading_link&utm_source=email_signature>
> [image: Book Cover]
> <https://www.goodreads.com/user/email_signature_destination/35215676?utm_medium=cover&utm_source=email_signature>
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://sudoroom.org/pipermail/sudo-discuss/attachments/20150724/df65d4cf/attachment.html>
More information about the sudo-discuss
mailing list