[sudo-discuss] [Mesh] Computers for the Public Setup+ ALERTS (DNS + Speed)

Ryan yandoryn at gmail.com
Fri Jul 24 17:36:13 PDT 2015


What might work even better than a laptop, if it has its own desk, is a
computer I just built. It has an ergonomic mouse currently, and had an
ergonomic keyboard, but not all the keys worked on that one.

On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 5:34 PM, Ryan <yandoryn at gmail.com> wrote:

> The average desk/table is about the right height for a wheelchair user, so
> I'm confused as to why we'd need to have it brought down or use a standing
> desk. We could use a normal desk and have a chair on wheels, so it's easy
> to move away.
>
> On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 5:31 PM, Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> We could get a few of those steel security cables to tie down laptops.
>>
>> How about we have a few standing desk spots in La Commune, with a
>> security cable long enough for a wheelchair user to put the laptop on their
>> lap? That should somewhat discourage long-term use by people who don't need
>> it.
>>
>> Of course, actually putting a laptop on your lap is not ideal in terms of
>> ergonomics. Maybe we could build a small fold-down desk attached to the
>> wall, and then paint a blue wheelchair symbol on the floor ?
>>
>> Patrik
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 11:29 PM, Ryan <yandoryn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I haven't. :/ Maybe it would be better if it were a laptop that's
>>> somehow secured somewhere but can be put away, so it doesn't take up space
>>> when not being used by someone who needs it.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 10:08 PM, danarauz at gmail.com <danarauz at gmail.com
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Makes sense, Ryan.
>>>> So, have you found a place where we should work on?
>>>>
>>>> Or/and, would you like me to see if I can set the computer you were
>>>> using (or another) below the desk as I mentioned it to you, so that the
>>>> display its a better eye level?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 3:28 AM, Ryan <yandoryn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I don't think they should be near the entrance. If they are, they will
>>>>> get used instead of the ones upstairs... meaning folks who need an
>>>>> accessible computer won't be able to use it. Even if we put that they're
>>>>> reserved for people with disabilities, they'll get used first. I guarantee
>>>>> it.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 9:31 PM, danarauz at gmail.com <
>>>>> danarauz at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you Jenny, but the credit goes to everyone who organically
>>>>>> participated; from building the tables and onto the final result.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ryan, I think the ideal would be to have one or two workstations near
>>>>>> the entrance; but if not possible, then Jenny's idea sounds the best, imho.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What do you think?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Ryan <yandoryn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Good to know!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Every time I've come by, it just seems like more and more have
>>>>>>> accumulated over time. This just felt like critical mass, I guess. Maybe my
>>>>>>> timing has just been weird.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 6:02 PM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> that's an unusual situation, brought on by some hacker not putting
>>>>>>>> away whatever they were playing with.  usually it's just the imac and a big
>>>>>>>> monitor.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -jake
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 13 Jul 2015, Ryan wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Oh, no, there were 6 monitors over on these tables, not including
>>>>>>>>> the macs!
>>>>>>>>> Made the space really unusable for hacking.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 4:55 PM, Kelly Peng <ziqikelly at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>       I agree with Jake that those desk/monitor in sudo room are
>>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>>       for hacking, instead of for facebook/email. Ryan, the 2 Mac
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>       one external monitor are mine, and I can remove two of them
>>>>>>>>>       tomorrow
>>>>>>>>> night:-)[t?sender=aemlxaWtlbGx5QGdtYWlsLmNvbQ%3D%3D&type=zerocontent&guid=3cfa33
>>>>>>>>>       1d-a593-40bf-95eb-e880a6dd4008] ᐧ
>>>>>>>>> [kywVk6n.gif]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 1:50 PM, Ryan <yandoryn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>       If they are for hacking, I would suggest they not be used
>>>>>>>>>       for monitor storage. I'd move them myself, if I could
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>       On Jul 13, 2015 1:35 PM, "Jake" <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>             those desks in sudoroom are for hacking, not
>>>>>>>>>             for public facebook and email checking -
>>>>>>>>>             that's why we put the public terminals outside
>>>>>>>>>             sudoroom.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             i agree that there should be ground-floor
>>>>>>>>>             accessible public terminals, but not in
>>>>>>>>>             sudoroom (any more than there already are)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             -jake
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             On Mon, 13 Jul 2015, Ryan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                   Sitting where the Mac is in sudo,
>>>>>>>>>                   I'm thinking these tables might be
>>>>>>>>>                   awesome for more "public use" and
>>>>>>>>>                   less "using the computers tied to
>>>>>>>>>                   other devices." I'd leave a
>>>>>>>>>                   bit of space, to make sure people
>>>>>>>>>                   have room for crafty-type stuff
>>>>>>>>>                   but there's tons of monitors
>>>>>>>>>                   sitting here anyway... I'll bring
>>>>>>>>>                   it up on Wednesday.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                   On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 7:11 AM,
>>>>>>>>>                   danarauz at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>                   <danarauz at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>                         That sounds to me;
>>>>>>>>>                   thanks! And, when you get
>>>>>>>>>                   something ready, I would try to
>>>>>>>>>                   leave early from work and meet you
>>>>>>>>>                   then.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                   On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 9:01 PM,
>>>>>>>>>                   Ryan <yandoryn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>                         Yeah, I can try and do that
>>>>>>>>>                   on Monday!
>>>>>>>>>                   Weekends can be tough for me right
>>>>>>>>>                   now because I'm only supposed to
>>>>>>>>>                   leave the house 2-3 days a week a
>>>>>>>>>                   la my physical therapist. But I'll
>>>>>>>>>                   get in touch
>>>>>>>>>                   after Monday and see what I can
>>>>>>>>>                   find.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                   On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 6:30 PM,
>>>>>>>>>                   danarauz at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>                   <danarauz at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>                         Weekends are much easier for
>>>>>>>>>                   me to meet you; but if needed,
>>>>>>>>>                   weekdays evening is the other
>>>>>>>>>                   option.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                   Anyhow, would you want to go ahead
>>>>>>>>>                   and take care of finding the area
>>>>>>>>>                   and of getting the okay from the
>>>>>>>>>                   corresponding collective?  Then we
>>>>>>>>>                   can deal
>>>>>>>>>                   with the rest of the deets:
>>>>>>>>>                   tables, and materials, etc.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                   Thanks Ryan!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                   Daniel
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                   On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 5:41 PM,
>>>>>>>>>                   Ryan <yandoryn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>                         Sure! I'll be in sudo by 2
>>>>>>>>>                   tomorrow, and while I'm meeting
>>>>>>>>>                   someone there to show her how to
>>>>>>>>>                   use the laser cutter, I'm sure
>>>>>>>>>                   I'll have
>>>>>>>>>                         time to help on this as
>>>>>>>>>                   well!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                   On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 5:25 PM,
>>>>>>>>>                   danarauz at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>                   <danarauz at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>                         Accessibility. Good point
>>>>>>>>>                   Ryan.
>>>>>>>>>                   Would you like to work with me and
>>>>>>>>>                   see if we can set up accessible
>>>>>>>>>                   computers at the first floor?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                   Thanks, and let me know,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                   Daniel
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                   On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 4:42 PM,
>>>>>>>>>                   Ryan <yandoryn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>                         Would be really cool if we
>>>>>>>>>                   could get some accessible stations
>>>>>>>>>                   for the public, rather than
>>>>>>>>>                   continuing to put them upstairs.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                   On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 7:15 PM,
>>>>>>>>>                   danarauz at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>                   <danarauz at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>                         Hellos,
>>>>>>>>>                   Good News!
>>>>>>>>>                   We now have a total of 10 new data
>>>>>>>>>                   drops at the second floor where
>>>>>>>>>                   the computers for the public are.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                   Four computers are already setup
>>>>>>>>>                   and ready to use. The other six
>>>>>>>>>                   are already active, so it is
>>>>>>>>>                   matter of bringing more
>>>>>>>>>                   computers to the table and set
>>>>>>>>>                   them up.
>>>>>>>>>                   The second one from the left was
>>>>>>>>>                   not booting up, and since I had a
>>>>>>>>>                   bootable USB with Debian 8 with
>>>>>>>>>                   me; well.. I installed
>>>>>>>>>                   Debian on it. User name: user
>>>>>>>>>                   Password: user Root's password:
>>>>>>>>>                   user  -Feel free to modify that if
>>>>>>>>>                   one wish or if it
>>>>>>>>>                   required. I just wanted to have it
>>>>>>>>>                   running at least.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                   I removed all the extra
>>>>>>>>>                   unnecessary and/or unsafe
>>>>>>>>>                   equipment that was there on that
>>>>>>>>>                   table.
>>>>>>>>>                   Excuse me that it was brought down
>>>>>>>>>                   to one of the tables at Sudo, but
>>>>>>>>>                   I was too exhausted that I just
>>>>>>>>>                   wanted to go home.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                   ALERTS:
>>>>>>>>>                   DNS: At the time that I left the
>>>>>>>>>                   building, 5pm, there were some DNS
>>>>>>>>>                   issues. DNS was not resolving.
>>>>>>>>>                   Pinging Google's DNS IP 8.8.8.8
>>>>>>>>>                   worked, but not when trying the
>>>>>>>>>                   domain name. The issue seemed
>>>>>>>>>                   intermittent.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                   BANDWIDTH: Also, I ran a few speed
>>>>>>>>>                   tests and they area about 20Mbps /
>>>>>>>>>                   1.5Mbps.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                   Thanks Hassan, Sierk, and
>>>>>>>>>                   Francisco for your help during
>>>>>>>>>                   these three days of work.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                   Daniel
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