[sudo-discuss] [Mesh] Computers for the Public Setup+ ALERTS (DNS + Speed)

Ryan yandoryn at gmail.com
Fri Jul 24 17:34:04 PDT 2015


The average desk/table is about the right height for a wheelchair user, so
I'm confused as to why we'd need to have it brought down or use a standing
desk. We could use a normal desk and have a chair on wheels, so it's easy
to move away.

On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 5:31 PM, Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd at gmail.com>
wrote:

> We could get a few of those steel security cables to tie down laptops.
>
> How about we have a few standing desk spots in La Commune, with a security
> cable long enough for a wheelchair user to put the laptop on their lap?
> That should somewhat discourage long-term use by people who don't need it.
>
> Of course, actually putting a laptop on your lap is not ideal in terms of
> ergonomics. Maybe we could build a small fold-down desk attached to the
> wall, and then paint a blue wheelchair symbol on the floor ?
>
> Patrik
>
> On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 11:29 PM, Ryan <yandoryn at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I haven't. :/ Maybe it would be better if it were a laptop that's somehow
>> secured somewhere but can be put away, so it doesn't take up space when not
>> being used by someone who needs it.
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 10:08 PM, danarauz at gmail.com <danarauz at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Makes sense, Ryan.
>>> So, have you found a place where we should work on?
>>>
>>> Or/and, would you like me to see if I can set the computer you were
>>> using (or another) below the desk as I mentioned it to you, so that the
>>> display its a better eye level?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 3:28 AM, Ryan <yandoryn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don't think they should be near the entrance. If they are, they will
>>>> get used instead of the ones upstairs... meaning folks who need an
>>>> accessible computer won't be able to use it. Even if we put that they're
>>>> reserved for people with disabilities, they'll get used first. I guarantee
>>>> it.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 9:31 PM, danarauz at gmail.com <danarauz at gmail.com
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thank you Jenny, but the credit goes to everyone who organically
>>>>> participated; from building the tables and onto the final result.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ryan, I think the ideal would be to have one or two workstations near
>>>>> the entrance; but if not possible, then Jenny's idea sounds the best, imho.
>>>>>
>>>>> What do you think?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Ryan <yandoryn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Good to know!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Every time I've come by, it just seems like more and more have
>>>>>> accumulated over time. This just felt like critical mass, I guess. Maybe my
>>>>>> timing has just been weird.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 6:02 PM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> that's an unusual situation, brought on by some hacker not putting
>>>>>>> away whatever they were playing with.  usually it's just the imac and a big
>>>>>>> monitor.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -jake
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, 13 Jul 2015, Ryan wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Oh, no, there were 6 monitors over on these tables, not including
>>>>>>>> the macs!
>>>>>>>> Made the space really unusable for hacking.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 4:55 PM, Kelly Peng <ziqikelly at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>       I agree with Jake that those desk/monitor in sudo room are
>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>       for hacking, instead of for facebook/email. Ryan, the 2 Mac
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>       one external monitor are mine, and I can remove two of them
>>>>>>>>       tomorrow
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>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 1:50 PM, Ryan <yandoryn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>       If they are for hacking, I would suggest they not be used
>>>>>>>>       for monitor storage. I'd move them myself, if I could
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>       On Jul 13, 2015 1:35 PM, "Jake" <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>             those desks in sudoroom are for hacking, not
>>>>>>>>             for public facebook and email checking -
>>>>>>>>             that's why we put the public terminals outside
>>>>>>>>             sudoroom.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>             i agree that there should be ground-floor
>>>>>>>>             accessible public terminals, but not in
>>>>>>>>             sudoroom (any more than there already are)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>             -jake
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>             On Mon, 13 Jul 2015, Ryan wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                   Sitting where the Mac is in sudo,
>>>>>>>>                   I'm thinking these tables might be
>>>>>>>>                   awesome for more "public use" and
>>>>>>>>                   less "using the computers tied to
>>>>>>>>                   other devices." I'd leave a
>>>>>>>>                   bit of space, to make sure people
>>>>>>>>                   have room for crafty-type stuff
>>>>>>>>                   but there's tons of monitors
>>>>>>>>                   sitting here anyway... I'll bring
>>>>>>>>                   it up on Wednesday.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                   On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 7:11 AM,
>>>>>>>>                   danarauz at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>                   <danarauz at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>                         That sounds to me;
>>>>>>>>                   thanks! And, when you get
>>>>>>>>                   something ready, I would try to
>>>>>>>>                   leave early from work and meet you
>>>>>>>>                   then.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                   On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 9:01 PM,
>>>>>>>>                   Ryan <yandoryn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>                         Yeah, I can try and do that
>>>>>>>>                   on Monday!
>>>>>>>>                   Weekends can be tough for me right
>>>>>>>>                   now because I'm only supposed to
>>>>>>>>                   leave the house 2-3 days a week a
>>>>>>>>                   la my physical therapist. But I'll
>>>>>>>>                   get in touch
>>>>>>>>                   after Monday and see what I can
>>>>>>>>                   find.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                   On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 6:30 PM,
>>>>>>>>                   danarauz at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>                   <danarauz at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>                         Weekends are much easier for
>>>>>>>>                   me to meet you; but if needed,
>>>>>>>>                   weekdays evening is the other
>>>>>>>>                   option.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                   Anyhow, would you want to go ahead
>>>>>>>>                   and take care of finding the area
>>>>>>>>                   and of getting the okay from the
>>>>>>>>                   corresponding collective?  Then we
>>>>>>>>                   can deal
>>>>>>>>                   with the rest of the deets:
>>>>>>>>                   tables, and materials, etc.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                   Thanks Ryan!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                   Daniel
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                   On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 5:41 PM,
>>>>>>>>                   Ryan <yandoryn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>                         Sure! I'll be in sudo by 2
>>>>>>>>                   tomorrow, and while I'm meeting
>>>>>>>>                   someone there to show her how to
>>>>>>>>                   use the laser cutter, I'm sure
>>>>>>>>                   I'll have
>>>>>>>>                         time to help on this as
>>>>>>>>                   well!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                   On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 5:25 PM,
>>>>>>>>                   danarauz at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>                   <danarauz at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>                         Accessibility. Good point
>>>>>>>>                   Ryan.
>>>>>>>>                   Would you like to work with me and
>>>>>>>>                   see if we can set up accessible
>>>>>>>>                   computers at the first floor?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                   Thanks, and let me know,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                   Daniel
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                   On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 4:42 PM,
>>>>>>>>                   Ryan <yandoryn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>                         Would be really cool if we
>>>>>>>>                   could get some accessible stations
>>>>>>>>                   for the public, rather than
>>>>>>>>                   continuing to put them upstairs.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                   On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 7:15 PM,
>>>>>>>>                   danarauz at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>                   <danarauz at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>                         Hellos,
>>>>>>>>                   Good News!
>>>>>>>>                   We now have a total of 10 new data
>>>>>>>>                   drops at the second floor where
>>>>>>>>                   the computers for the public are.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                   Four computers are already setup
>>>>>>>>                   and ready to use. The other six
>>>>>>>>                   are already active, so it is
>>>>>>>>                   matter of bringing more
>>>>>>>>                   computers to the table and set
>>>>>>>>                   them up.
>>>>>>>>                   The second one from the left was
>>>>>>>>                   not booting up, and since I had a
>>>>>>>>                   bootable USB with Debian 8 with
>>>>>>>>                   me; well.. I installed
>>>>>>>>                   Debian on it. User name: user
>>>>>>>>                   Password: user Root's password:
>>>>>>>>                   user  -Feel free to modify that if
>>>>>>>>                   one wish or if it
>>>>>>>>                   required. I just wanted to have it
>>>>>>>>                   running at least.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                   I removed all the extra
>>>>>>>>                   unnecessary and/or unsafe
>>>>>>>>                   equipment that was there on that
>>>>>>>>                   table.
>>>>>>>>                   Excuse me that it was brought down
>>>>>>>>                   to one of the tables at Sudo, but
>>>>>>>>                   I was too exhausted that I just
>>>>>>>>                   wanted to go home.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                   ALERTS:
>>>>>>>>                   DNS: At the time that I left the
>>>>>>>>                   building, 5pm, there were some DNS
>>>>>>>>                   issues. DNS was not resolving.
>>>>>>>>                   Pinging Google's DNS IP 8.8.8.8
>>>>>>>>                   worked, but not when trying the
>>>>>>>>                   domain name. The issue seemed
>>>>>>>>                   intermittent.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                   BANDWIDTH: Also, I ran a few speed
>>>>>>>>                   tests and they area about 20Mbps /
>>>>>>>>                   1.5Mbps.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                   Thanks Hassan, Sierk, and
>>>>>>>>                   Francisco for your help during
>>>>>>>>                   these three days of work.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                   Daniel
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