[sudo-discuss] [Mesh] Computers for the Public Setup+ ALERTS (DNS + Speed)

Patrik D'haeseleer patrikd at gmail.com
Fri Jul 24 17:31:59 PDT 2015


We could get a few of those steel security cables to tie down laptops.

How about we have a few standing desk spots in La Commune, with a security
cable long enough for a wheelchair user to put the laptop on their lap?
That should somewhat discourage long-term use by people who don't need it.

Of course, actually putting a laptop on your lap is not ideal in terms of
ergonomics. Maybe we could build a small fold-down desk attached to the
wall, and then paint a blue wheelchair symbol on the floor ?

Patrik

On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 11:29 PM, Ryan <yandoryn at gmail.com> wrote:

> I haven't. :/ Maybe it would be better if it were a laptop that's somehow
> secured somewhere but can be put away, so it doesn't take up space when not
> being used by someone who needs it.
>
> On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 10:08 PM, danarauz at gmail.com <danarauz at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Makes sense, Ryan.
>> So, have you found a place where we should work on?
>>
>> Or/and, would you like me to see if I can set the computer you were using
>> (or another) below the desk as I mentioned it to you, so that the display
>> its a better eye level?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 3:28 AM, Ryan <yandoryn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I don't think they should be near the entrance. If they are, they will
>>> get used instead of the ones upstairs... meaning folks who need an
>>> accessible computer won't be able to use it. Even if we put that they're
>>> reserved for people with disabilities, they'll get used first. I guarantee
>>> it.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 9:31 PM, danarauz at gmail.com <danarauz at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thank you Jenny, but the credit goes to everyone who organically
>>>> participated; from building the tables and onto the final result.
>>>>
>>>> Ryan, I think the ideal would be to have one or two workstations near
>>>> the entrance; but if not possible, then Jenny's idea sounds the best, imho.
>>>>
>>>> What do you think?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Ryan <yandoryn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Good to know!
>>>>>
>>>>> Every time I've come by, it just seems like more and more have
>>>>> accumulated over time. This just felt like critical mass, I guess. Maybe my
>>>>> timing has just been weird.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 6:02 PM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> that's an unusual situation, brought on by some hacker not putting
>>>>>> away whatever they were playing with.  usually it's just the imac and a big
>>>>>> monitor.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -jake
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, 13 Jul 2015, Ryan wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Oh, no, there were 6 monitors over on these tables, not including
>>>>>>> the macs!
>>>>>>> Made the space really unusable for hacking.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 4:55 PM, Kelly Peng <ziqikelly at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>       I agree with Jake that those desk/monitor in sudo room are more
>>>>>>>       for hacking, instead of for facebook/email. Ryan, the 2 Mac and
>>>>>>>       one external monitor are mine, and I can remove two of them
>>>>>>>       tomorrow
>>>>>>> night:-)[t?sender=aemlxaWtlbGx5QGdtYWlsLmNvbQ%3D%3D&type=zerocontent&guid=3cfa33
>>>>>>>       1d-a593-40bf-95eb-e880a6dd4008] ᐧ
>>>>>>> [kywVk6n.gif]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 1:50 PM, Ryan <yandoryn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>       If they are for hacking, I would suggest they not be used
>>>>>>>       for monitor storage. I'd move them myself, if I could
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>       On Jul 13, 2015 1:35 PM, "Jake" <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>             those desks in sudoroom are for hacking, not
>>>>>>>             for public facebook and email checking -
>>>>>>>             that's why we put the public terminals outside
>>>>>>>             sudoroom.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             i agree that there should be ground-floor
>>>>>>>             accessible public terminals, but not in
>>>>>>>             sudoroom (any more than there already are)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             -jake
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             On Mon, 13 Jul 2015, Ryan wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                   Sitting where the Mac is in sudo,
>>>>>>>                   I'm thinking these tables might be
>>>>>>>                   awesome for more "public use" and
>>>>>>>                   less "using the computers tied to
>>>>>>>                   other devices." I'd leave a
>>>>>>>                   bit of space, to make sure people
>>>>>>>                   have room for crafty-type stuff
>>>>>>>                   but there's tons of monitors
>>>>>>>                   sitting here anyway... I'll bring
>>>>>>>                   it up on Wednesday.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                   On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 7:11 AM,
>>>>>>>                   danarauz at gmail.com
>>>>>>>                   <danarauz at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>                         That sounds to me;
>>>>>>>                   thanks! And, when you get
>>>>>>>                   something ready, I would try to
>>>>>>>                   leave early from work and meet you
>>>>>>>                   then.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                   On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 9:01 PM,
>>>>>>>                   Ryan <yandoryn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>                         Yeah, I can try and do that
>>>>>>>                   on Monday!
>>>>>>>                   Weekends can be tough for me right
>>>>>>>                   now because I'm only supposed to
>>>>>>>                   leave the house 2-3 days a week a
>>>>>>>                   la my physical therapist. But I'll
>>>>>>>                   get in touch
>>>>>>>                   after Monday and see what I can
>>>>>>>                   find.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                   On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 6:30 PM,
>>>>>>>                   danarauz at gmail.com
>>>>>>>                   <danarauz at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>                         Weekends are much easier for
>>>>>>>                   me to meet you; but if needed,
>>>>>>>                   weekdays evening is the other
>>>>>>>                   option.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                   Anyhow, would you want to go ahead
>>>>>>>                   and take care of finding the area
>>>>>>>                   and of getting the okay from the
>>>>>>>                   corresponding collective?  Then we
>>>>>>>                   can deal
>>>>>>>                   with the rest of the deets:
>>>>>>>                   tables, and materials, etc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                   Thanks Ryan!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                   Daniel
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                   On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 5:41 PM,
>>>>>>>                   Ryan <yandoryn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>                         Sure! I'll be in sudo by 2
>>>>>>>                   tomorrow, and while I'm meeting
>>>>>>>                   someone there to show her how to
>>>>>>>                   use the laser cutter, I'm sure
>>>>>>>                   I'll have
>>>>>>>                         time to help on this as
>>>>>>>                   well!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                   On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 5:25 PM,
>>>>>>>                   danarauz at gmail.com
>>>>>>>                   <danarauz at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>                         Accessibility. Good point
>>>>>>>                   Ryan.
>>>>>>>                   Would you like to work with me and
>>>>>>>                   see if we can set up accessible
>>>>>>>                   computers at the first floor?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                   Thanks, and let me know,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                   Daniel
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                   On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 4:42 PM,
>>>>>>>                   Ryan <yandoryn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>                         Would be really cool if we
>>>>>>>                   could get some accessible stations
>>>>>>>                   for the public, rather than
>>>>>>>                   continuing to put them upstairs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                   On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 7:15 PM,
>>>>>>>                   danarauz at gmail.com
>>>>>>>                   <danarauz at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>                         Hellos,
>>>>>>>                   Good News!
>>>>>>>                   We now have a total of 10 new data
>>>>>>>                   drops at the second floor where
>>>>>>>                   the computers for the public are.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                   Four computers are already setup
>>>>>>>                   and ready to use. The other six
>>>>>>>                   are already active, so it is
>>>>>>>                   matter of bringing more
>>>>>>>                   computers to the table and set
>>>>>>>                   them up.
>>>>>>>                   The second one from the left was
>>>>>>>                   not booting up, and since I had a
>>>>>>>                   bootable USB with Debian 8 with
>>>>>>>                   me; well.. I installed
>>>>>>>                   Debian on it. User name: user
>>>>>>>                   Password: user Root's password:
>>>>>>>                   user  -Feel free to modify that if
>>>>>>>                   one wish or if it
>>>>>>>                   required. I just wanted to have it
>>>>>>>                   running at least.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                   I removed all the extra
>>>>>>>                   unnecessary and/or unsafe
>>>>>>>                   equipment that was there on that
>>>>>>>                   table.
>>>>>>>                   Excuse me that it was brought down
>>>>>>>                   to one of the tables at Sudo, but
>>>>>>>                   I was too exhausted that I just
>>>>>>>                   wanted to go home.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                   ALERTS:
>>>>>>>                   DNS: At the time that I left the
>>>>>>>                   building, 5pm, there were some DNS
>>>>>>>                   issues. DNS was not resolving.
>>>>>>>                   Pinging Google's DNS IP 8.8.8.8
>>>>>>>                   worked, but not when trying the
>>>>>>>                   domain name. The issue seemed
>>>>>>>                   intermittent.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                   BANDWIDTH: Also, I ran a few speed
>>>>>>>                   tests and they area about 20Mbps /
>>>>>>>                   1.5Mbps.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                   Thanks Hassan, Sierk, and
>>>>>>>                   Francisco for your help during
>>>>>>>                   these three days of work.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                   Daniel
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