[sudo-discuss] [omni-discuss] [CCL] Don't leave valuables in your car!

Noemie Serfaty noemieserfaty at gmail.com
Tue Jun 16 16:05:48 PDT 2015


Sounds great!
I'm on it.

On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 4:00 PM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:

> I think that the majority of white america is mostly ignorant of these
> realities, and that it would be a good idea to make a poster that explains
> it, in plain english, so that good-intentioned people can be informed.
>
> I don't think the suggestion to summon police would have been made by
> someone aware of these issues.  I think that the most direct route to
> awareness will be signs, posters and flyers, directed toward people who
> should know better, but don't.
>
> Of course it's the duty of the privileged to educate themselves, but as a
> community of people who are in possession of this knowledge, we should do
> what we can to make sure newcomers to our community are informed of this
> important issue, to prevent a repeating pattern of ignorant accidents.
>
> I assume the Material Print Machine or one of the many giant laser
> printers at sudoroom are up to the task of reproducing a well-worded primer
> on police brutality and police reality.
>
> -jake
>
>
> On Tue, 16 Jun 2015, Noemie Serfaty wrote:
>
>  I guess it sums it up:
>>
>> If OPD sees a black man sleeping in a car, they shoot him.
>>
>> If you are white and ask them to protect the property you leave in your
>> car, they might do it.
>> Because they've proved that they care more about your property than they
>> do about a black life.
>>
>> The question is, do you want to be complicit to that?
>>
>> Is that issue something we could include in our safe space policy? Is
>> there a need to carve it in stone somewhere in the building? I'll do
>> whatever is
>> needed to make it a thing: OPD friendly discourse is really, really NOT
>> OK. It's offensive and threatening to the people who are from Oakland, to
>> the
>> people here who get harrassed on a daily basis, to the people here who
>> dedicate, sometimes sacrifice their lives to the struggle for dignity and
>> their
>> basic human rights.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 1:15 AM, Noemie Serfaty <noemieserfaty at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>       +1 to yar and daniel. I'm pretty upset right now.
>>
>>       So, let's be clear. If you come from far to be at the Omni, then be
>> aware that you are arriving in a city where a lot of people suffer from
>>       poverty, racism and police brutality. Don't be a gentrifier. If you
>> want your valuable belongings to be safe, then don't leave them in your
>>       car.
>>       And don't ask the cops to protect your property.
>>       They killed another black man, the father of a friend, a few days
>> ago. He was sleeping in his car. OPD has invited 10 FBI agents to join
>>       their troop. The pigs are not our friends, and it's not funny. If
>> you don't notice it, then I invite you to put yourself in the shoes of
>>       someone with less than you.
>>
>>       On Jun 15, 2015 9:36 PM, "danarauz at gmail.com" <danarauz at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>             Sorry Joe, I meant Jacob.
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 9:29 PM, danarauz at gmail.com <danarauz at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>       Joe: Please do not invite cops to the Omni area.
>> SERIOUSLY, this is not a joke.
>> Police do NOT care about Black and Brown people.
>> And IF there were good cops they will be arresting all those racist
>> killer cops.
>>
>> COPS are armed and HIGHLY DANGEROUS, specially toward people with out
>> White Privilege.
>>
>> And the more you talk, the more they learn about you and your friends.
>>
>> Why not to talk to Police Officers:
>> https://youtu.be/6wXkI4t7nuc
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 6:59 PM, Christian Elssner <celssner at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>       Is the camera visible? If it is hidden it kind of defeats the
>> purpose.
>> These are the kind of stickers I was thinking of (just a suggestion).
>>
>>
>> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001FY0WDK/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_dp_ss_3?pf_rd_p=1944687602&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B002WFJEJY&pf_rd_m=AT
>> VPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=0JDGP6B7JX67H52MR34K
>> [IMAGE]
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 6:56 PM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>>       I think it would make more sense to put signs up saying "if you
>> leave anything in your car, the windows will get
>>       broken and it will be stolen, even if it's covered up by an old
>> shirt."
>>
>>       after all, there is a camera on the corner (pointed at omni) and it
>> probably captures lots of car burglaries - i
>>       don't think anyone gets busted that way.
>>
>>       On Fri, 12 Jun 2015, Christian Elssner wrote:
>>
>>             Alternative to cops would be to place a few stickers around
>> Omni stating that the area has surveillance
>>             cams. Or even place a fake couple fake ones around.
>>
>>
>>             [jZXzVcR.gif]
>>
>>             On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 2:02 PM, <hol at gaskill.com> wrote:
>>                   there is the best alternative to inviting more police,
>> same as the subject line.
>>
>>                   additional info is not needed to substantiate that the
>> omni as a collective is not in favor of an
>>             increased police presence.
>>
>>                   On 2015-06-09 10:16, yar wrote:
>>                         On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 9:08 AM, Stephen Novotny
>>                         <novotny.stephen at gmail.com> wrote:
>>                               I think it's a terrible idea to ask cops to
>> patrol our streets more often.
>>                               There is no immediate solution to
>> preventing theft other than removing
>>                               valuables from cars.
>>
>>
>>                         Just for the record, I've lived in Oakland almost
>> a decade, I've
>>                         driven to Omni 100+ times, and my car has NEVER
>> been broken into. I'm
>>                         pretty sure that's because I just don't leave
>> shit in it.
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