[sudo-discuss] [omni-discuss] [CCL] Don't leave valuables in your car!
Dante Cassius
exaltedunmelody at gmail.com
Tue Jun 16 16:06:25 PDT 2015
Very well said Jake :)
On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 4:05 PM, Noemie Serfaty <noemieserfaty at gmail.com>
wrote:
> Sounds great!
> I'm on it.
>
> On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 4:00 PM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>
>> I think that the majority of white america is mostly ignorant of these
>> realities, and that it would be a good idea to make a poster that explains
>> it, in plain english, so that good-intentioned people can be informed.
>>
>> I don't think the suggestion to summon police would have been made by
>> someone aware of these issues. I think that the most direct route to
>> awareness will be signs, posters and flyers, directed toward people who
>> should know better, but don't.
>>
>> Of course it's the duty of the privileged to educate themselves, but as a
>> community of people who are in possession of this knowledge, we should do
>> what we can to make sure newcomers to our community are informed of this
>> important issue, to prevent a repeating pattern of ignorant accidents.
>>
>> I assume the Material Print Machine or one of the many giant laser
>> printers at sudoroom are up to the task of reproducing a well-worded primer
>> on police brutality and police reality.
>>
>> -jake
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 16 Jun 2015, Noemie Serfaty wrote:
>>
>> I guess it sums it up:
>>>
>>> If OPD sees a black man sleeping in a car, they shoot him.
>>>
>>> If you are white and ask them to protect the property you leave in your
>>> car, they might do it.
>>> Because they've proved that they care more about your property than they
>>> do about a black life.
>>>
>>> The question is, do you want to be complicit to that?
>>>
>>> Is that issue something we could include in our safe space policy? Is
>>> there a need to carve it in stone somewhere in the building? I'll do
>>> whatever is
>>> needed to make it a thing: OPD friendly discourse is really, really NOT
>>> OK. It's offensive and threatening to the people who are from Oakland, to
>>> the
>>> people here who get harrassed on a daily basis, to the people here who
>>> dedicate, sometimes sacrifice their lives to the struggle for dignity and
>>> their
>>> basic human rights.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 1:15 AM, Noemie Serfaty <noemieserfaty at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> +1 to yar and daniel. I'm pretty upset right now.
>>>
>>> So, let's be clear. If you come from far to be at the Omni, then
>>> be aware that you are arriving in a city where a lot of people suffer from
>>> poverty, racism and police brutality. Don't be a gentrifier. If
>>> you want your valuable belongings to be safe, then don't leave them in your
>>> car.
>>> And don't ask the cops to protect your property.
>>> They killed another black man, the father of a friend, a few days
>>> ago. He was sleeping in his car. OPD has invited 10 FBI agents to join
>>> their troop. The pigs are not our friends, and it's not funny. If
>>> you don't notice it, then I invite you to put yourself in the shoes of
>>> someone with less than you.
>>>
>>> On Jun 15, 2015 9:36 PM, "danarauz at gmail.com" <danarauz at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> Sorry Joe, I meant Jacob.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 9:29 PM, danarauz at gmail.com <danarauz at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> Joe: Please do not invite cops to the Omni area.
>>> SERIOUSLY, this is not a joke.
>>> Police do NOT care about Black and Brown people.
>>> And IF there were good cops they will be arresting all those racist
>>> killer cops.
>>>
>>> COPS are armed and HIGHLY DANGEROUS, specially toward people with out
>>> White Privilege.
>>>
>>> And the more you talk, the more they learn about you and your friends.
>>>
>>> Why not to talk to Police Officers:
>>> https://youtu.be/6wXkI4t7nuc
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 6:59 PM, Christian Elssner <celssner at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> Is the camera visible? If it is hidden it kind of defeats the
>>> purpose.
>>> These are the kind of stickers I was thinking of (just a suggestion).
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001FY0WDK/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_dp_ss_3?pf_rd_p=1944687602&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B002WFJEJY&pf_rd_m=AT
>>> VPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=0JDGP6B7JX67H52MR34K
>>> [IMAGE]
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 6:56 PM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>>> I think it would make more sense to put signs up saying "if you
>>> leave anything in your car, the windows will get
>>> broken and it will be stolen, even if it's covered up by an old
>>> shirt."
>>>
>>> after all, there is a camera on the corner (pointed at omni) and
>>> it probably captures lots of car burglaries - i
>>> don't think anyone gets busted that way.
>>>
>>> On Fri, 12 Jun 2015, Christian Elssner wrote:
>>>
>>> Alternative to cops would be to place a few stickers around
>>> Omni stating that the area has surveillance
>>> cams. Or even place a fake couple fake ones around.
>>>
>>>
>>> [jZXzVcR.gif]
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 2:02 PM, <hol at gaskill.com> wrote:
>>> there is the best alternative to inviting more police,
>>> same as the subject line.
>>>
>>> additional info is not needed to substantiate that the
>>> omni as a collective is not in favor of an
>>> increased police presence.
>>>
>>> On 2015-06-09 10:16, yar wrote:
>>> On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 9:08 AM, Stephen Novotny
>>> <novotny.stephen at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I think it's a terrible idea to ask cops
>>> to patrol our streets more often.
>>> There is no immediate solution to
>>> preventing theft other than removing
>>> valuables from cars.
>>>
>>>
>>> Just for the record, I've lived in Oakland
>>> almost a decade, I've
>>> driven to Omni 100+ times, and my car has NEVER
>>> been broken into. I'm
>>> pretty sure that's because I just don't leave
>>> shit in it.
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