[sudo-discuss] Fwd: [sudo-info] reaching out from google.org regarding an assistive technology hackathon

[Patrick O'Doherty]

So anyone who reaches out in good faith, asking for feedback and community
engagement, but who missteps should be shunned and boycotted. That seems a
tad extreme and counterproductive.

What do you want them to say yes to, specifically in relation to creating
an event like this?
On 24 Jun 2015 6:08 pm, "Ryan" <yandoryn at gmail.com> wrote:

> I can never understand why outright ableism is treated so differently than
> other forms of prejudice.
>
> If Google had put together a hackathon where we swapped out "disability"
> for "black," "women," or "queer," no one would quietly be talking about how
> we should "explore the opportunity" so we can bring them around. We'd be
> livid and working to boycott the project in general.
>
> What is it about ableism that allows us to grin and bear it, and look for
> the long game rather than demanding short-term action? Why is the disabled
> community asked to be quiet and meek, while their "allies" do just as much
> damage as those who openly admit that they see us as objects or unworthy of
> life?
>
> Oh, and it's not the "tech industry" that largely ableist. It's pretty
> much every industry out there.
>
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 5:43 PM, Vicky Knox <vknoxsironi at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm no longer in town but I have something to say.
>>
>> I think this is a good opportunity to explore. I hear your concerns about
>> their approach, Ryan. I am particularly irked by the inspirational music in
>> the video. *shudders*
>>
>> That said, I would love to take this opportunity to transmit our
>> collective concerns and critiques to them...call it "hacking their
>> framing". :] Whether one likes it or not, these folks have a lot of power
>> in shaping popular technology development and understandings into the
>> future. While we may not revolutionize Google, we can at least encourage
>> them to do their bidding in a way that is a little less evil.
>>
>> I'm happy that they're directly reaching out to hackerspaces, which means
>> they may take notes. I'm also happy that they're reaching out to us because
>> our social ecosystem is quite a bit more diverse than theirs and therefore
>> has more potential for wisdom (I wonder, have they reached out to
>> Mothership or LOL?). The tech industry (or any business that requires a
>> steep social capital (whiteness, maleness, ability to work 40+ hours/week,
>> etc.) in order to have a better (or any) chance at getting employed), after
>> all, is largely ableist and culturally stagnant. Please excuse my nesting.
>>
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