[sudo-discuss] Rannette attacked someone physically for the second time

Fri Jun 26 21:12:52 PDT 2015

I am sorry that I made you feel uncomfortable that day I had a head ache
and you were blasting techno. Whenever anyone has asked me to turn down
some music I have. I communicated my wish with what I thought was
respectful but I was in pain. Behaviors that are deniable. I'm confused. I
just feel like while I am doing my best to be accountable and I took some
very serious steps to do so. I don't feel like people are aknowledging the
many good thing for that space.

On Friday, June 26, 2015, Ryan <yandoryn at gmail.com> wrote:

> Please actually read the emails.
>
> She has been asked to leave without attempts at reconciliation at this
> time.
>
> However, please acknowledge that this isn't about tokenization. You are a
> button pusher and aggressive. You are constantly inserting yourself where
> it isn't appropriate, pushing boundaries, and making demands on others
> without thinking about the consequences for them in these actions. I'm not
> saying that she isn't rude or transphobic. What others are saying is that
> you escalate. You push people and push people.
>
> Honestly, I think you should be asked to leave. Not about this. About a
> pattern of shitty and even threatening behavior against multiple people
> when you don't agree with them or aren't getting what you want. If you
> *were* a member of sudo room, you would likely no longer be a member in
> good standing.
>
> Fuck, you intentionally pushed my buttons when I didn't immediately turn
> my music off when you asked me to turn it down. You are manipulative. And I
> feel that you intentionally choose behaviors that are deniable, which is so
> fucking abusive, even if you aren't aware of it.
>
> On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 12:22 PM, WIld Cat <wildcatofthewoods at gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','wildcatofthewoods at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>
>> And she attacked me in the street I think she should be banned if not it
>> ain't a safer space. Also she has attacked two other people. Don't try to
>> make this about race Niki. This is I give her shade because she is
>> aggressive, messy, rude, violent, and transphobic
>>
>>
>> On Friday, June 26, 2015, WIld Cat <wildcatofthewoods at gmail.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','wildcatofthewoods at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>
>>> Niki honestly I think you are tokenizing Rannette if anyone else was
>>> being as problematic and aggressive as she has been to many people in the
>>> space people would call it put. It ain't micro aggressions she has always
>>> acted rude and transphobic to me from day one. But I guess you can tokenize
>>> her and say just because she is black it is pk to be transphobic. I know
>>> plenty of black trans women and black trans allies that would not put up
>>> with her.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, June 25, 2015, niki <niki.shelley at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don't believe we have an explicit policy re: cops but we should
>>>> probably articulate one.
>>>>
>>>> Regarding this particular conflict, I just went and met with Ranette.
>>>>
>>>> First of all, I want it to be 100% clear that this email is not meant
>>>> to condone Ranette's behavior or the ways in which she handles
>>>> confrontation or engages in transphobic attacks.
>>>>
>>>> That said, oftentimes the most insidious and persistent forms of abuse
>>>> and oppression are not as obvious as a violent outburst. These are the
>>>> forms of abuse and oppression most instrumentalized by dominant culture and
>>>> they are consistently employed in order to control oppressed populations.
>>>>
>>>> You, Morgan, need to accept accountability for continuing to engage in
>>>> provocative micro-aggressions and gaslighting - particularly with those who
>>>> are different from you and who may not possess the best coping mechanisms /
>>>> most radical politics. I really believe that you intentionally push people
>>>> you don't like and who you know will react badly in an attempt to get them
>>>> banned from the space.
>>>>
>>>> I'd like to also ask that you think about the ways in which you
>>>> repeatedly police people in the space in ways such as inserting yourself
>>>> into private phone conversations.
>>>>
>>>> We don't need cops, we need people who are compassionate towards one
>>>> another's differences and who are willing to work through those differences
>>>> to arrive at some kind of common ground.
>>>>
>>>> I don't personally know that reconciliation is possible either at this
>>>> time, given our limited capacities and the level of aggression with which
>>>> Ranette has responded however, I believe your behavior to be a major part
>>>> of the problem.
>>>>
>>>> Another issue is the fact that the Omni is pretty maxed out with
>>>> regards to our capacity for conflict mediation / resolution at the moment.
>>>> Both Morgan and Ranette told me that they'd asked for mediation from
>>>> several people including the mediation mailing list and no one ever
>>>> followed up with either of them. I don't really know what to do about this
>>>> but it should be made clear to members of our community that they cannot
>>>> rely on us at the time for mediation / resolution.
>>>>
>>>> I told Ranette I would inquire about mediation. Obviously others
>>>> involved in this conflict must be willing to participate, a well if there's
>>>> to be any kind of resolution, which, I understand, some might not be
>>>> interested in pursing.
>>>>
>>>> N
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 10:08 PM, max cadji <max at phatbeetsproduce.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Does omni have a no police policy?
>>>>>
>>>>> max
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 4:56 PM, Pete Forsyth <peteforsyth at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 4:38 PM, Julio Rios <julio.rios at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I urge we don't involve the police though.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just a quick point of clarification -- I wasn't urging Sudo or Omni
>>>>>> to do so, but any *individual* who feels threatened. (And actually, just
>>>>>> urging them to consider it as a viable option...I'm not confident to
>>>>>> recommend anything specific, as my info is limited.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pete
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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