[sudo-discuss] Gratipocalypse

hol at gaskill.com hol at gaskill.com
Fri May 8 08:56:30 PDT 2015


this is potentially an emergency for us considering how little margin we 
have.

any ideas? bitcoin? those vacuum canister tubes like they used to have 
at banks? obvs not paypal or their ilk.

On 2015-05-07 16:54, danarauz at gmail.com wrote:

> Someone in IRC #Sudoroom posted:
> "does sudo still rely heavily on Gratipay?"
> 
> "if so https://medium.com/gratipay-blog/gratipocalypse-42fd0ec0d9e8 [2] 
> is very relevant"
> 
> Anyhow, a paste of the article (Published on May 7):
> 
> GRATIPOCALYPSE
> 
> -------------------------
> 
> Three weeks ago, we announced [3] that our payment processor, Balanced 
> Payments, is going out of business. At the time, we said that, "we will 
> have to change Gratipay in some yet-to-be-fully-understood fashion in 
> order to survive the transition away from Balanced, and it will be 
> hard." We're now beginning to understand the changes we have to make, 
> and they couldn't be harder.
> 
> Balanced is directing their customers to Stripe, and Stripe rejected us 
> because they believe our model "qualifies as money transmission [4]." 
> They followed up to specify changes [5] we would need to make in order 
> to use their service. These changes are drastic enough, but the 
> suggestion that Gratipay might be regulated as a money transmitter is 
> even more serious.
> 
> As soon as Stripe notified us of this possibility, we immediately 
> beganresearching the issue [6], and we quickly hired a lawyer [7] to 
> help us understand our situation. Yesterday, we concluded that the 
> concerns Stripe raised are real, and that therefore it would be both 
> imprudent and immoral for us to continue processing payments as we have 
> been. Unfortunately, we were unable to change course in time for this 
> week's payment cycle, and so, after 152 weeks of continuous operation, 
> WE ARE FOR THE FIRST TIME TODAY SKIPPING GRATIPAY'S WEEKLY PAYMENT 
> CYCLE.
> 
> Our intention is to quickly implement a revised model [8] that is true 
> to ourmission [9] and compliant with regulations, and resume processing 
> payments. However, A REVISED MODEL WILL ALMOST CERTAINLY EXCLUDE SOME 
> OF YOU WHO HAVE BEEN RECEIVING MONEY ON GRATIPAY IN THE PAST. 
> Simultaneously, we will work with regulators to resolve any past 
> noncompliance, a process we've already initiated.
> 
> This really sucks for you, our users, especially those who have come to 
> depend on the income you've been receiving through Gratipay. We're 
> deeply sorry for not discovering and handling this situation sooner, 
> and we look forward to processing payments again as soon as possible.
> 
> If you have any questions please contact us privately via email, or 
> publicly on this GitHub issue [8].
> 
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Links:
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[1] https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
[2] https://medium.com/gratipay-blog/gratipocalypse-42fd0ec0d9e8
[3] https://medium.com/gratipay-blog/balancedshutdown-3a9fdb32e9c6
[4] 
https://github.com/gratipay/gratipay.com/issues/3245#issuecomment-91112973
[5] 
https://github.com/gratipay/gratipay.com/issues/3324#issuecomment-93562216
[6] https://github.com/gratipay/gratipay.com/issues/3321
[7] https://github.com/gratipay/inside.gratipay.com/issues/193
[8] https://github.com/gratipay/inside.gratipay.com/issues/192
[9] http://inside.gratipay.com/big-picture/mission



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