[sudo-discuss] [Noisebridge-discuss] Moar Laser Cutter Infos
Jake
jake at spaz.org
Mon Nov 23 08:41:52 PST 2015
adam if you have the old burned out boardfrom yours i'm sure Zach will
gladly repair it. he's really good.
although there are two boards.. perhaps its the other one?
On Mon, 23 Nov 2015, Adam wrote:
>
> It's not the parts that make the board expensive, it's the
> salaries you must pay the engineers who write the software for
> it. Heck, you'd be surprised how little the parts cost of
> something reflects the price one must ask for to keep a company
> afloat.
>
> On 23 Nov 2015 1:03 am, "Zach R" <organicunity at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> Hey Adam,
> Thanks so much for the reply. Goddamn that board
> is expensive - I'm not surprised it does more given
> all the ICs on it. Nuts, looks like we need to cough
> up $400 for that board then or get a new laser cutter
> :/ What a scam, I doubt that PCB costs >$25 to
> produce.
> I second your thoughts on education. I've looked at
> your site as well as the manual and have been trying
> to learn more about the beast so that it gets taken
> care of properly.
>
> -Zach
>
> ________________________________________
> From:
> noisebridge-discuss-bounces at lists.noisebridge.net
> <noisebridge-discuss-bounces at lists.noisebridge.net>
> on behalf of Adam <adam at aperture.systems>
> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 12:16 AM
> To: Noisebridge
> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Moar Laser Cutter
> Infos
>
> I have this model laser. It's on loan at sudo right
> now.
>
> The board isn't just a USB-Parallel converter. On my
> laser (R.3) the
> board was a mixture of motor drivers, a few buffers
> and a CPLD doing
> something somewhat intelligent. When it failed, I was
> able to have
> full spectrum replace it with r.4 of their board for
> $400, which is
> pretty identical, though they've done away with the
> DB25 port in favor
> of direct to CPLD - USB.
>
> I have a guide on the use of these lasers here.
> http://hack.rit.edu/tools/fsl/
>
> I would not recommend hacked solutions over the FSL
> board, unless the
> solution is well documented, on a dedicated computer,
> backed up, and
> taught to a few NB chiefs. My time running RIT's
> hackerspace has
> taught that lack of education is the #1 reason people
> don't use tools
> like these, and when there's no one to teach, nothing
> will get done,
> and that sometimes it really is better to just pay
> extra for
> something that just works.
>
> -A
> -^-^-^-^-^-
> Adam Munich - Builder of wild things (and
> organizations)
> Tel: +1-650-452-0554
>
> The key to mastering any skill is nothing more than
> passion and persistence.
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 2:30 AM, Mitch Altman
> <maltman23 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > FYI: My friend Aqua (who's Chinese) called the
> company who actually makes the laser cutter
> (jnmydy.com is only a distributor), and they told her
> that they cannot sell us just the power Parallel to
> USB controller and main power motherboard PCBs
> separately, but they sell the "whole set" and some
> raw components. She will call be on Monday and find
> out how much the "whole set" costs.
> >
> >
> > And, yeah, I'd still really like to get reimbursed
> for the laser tube I bought for Noisebridge for
> $237.37 last year.
> >
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Mitch.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> >> From: organicunity at hotmail.com
> >> To: noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
> >> Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2015 02:29:14 +0000
> >> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Moar Laser
> Cutter Infos
> >>
> >>
> >> So looking through the NB discuss list history
> (and talking to myself
> >> more here) there are actually a few more things
> the Laser Cutter
> >> needs. From what I understand there is:
> >>
> >>
> >> 1) Parallel> USB controller board needed (waiting
> for word from the
> >> people at Full Spectrum Laser and the shop in
> China for a price quote -
> >> anyone received a reply?) Also, Henner says he
> might be able to hack
> >> this with Arduino
> >>
> >> 2) Water pump and one hose missing (according to
> Adam's email from the
> >> Hackathon in July)
> >>
> >> 3) Air Pump maybe (haven't checked to see if we
> have this)
> >>
> >> 4) Calibration of mirrors and stuff (can someone
> volunteer to do this?
> >> we have manuals for it, it's just tedious)
> >>
> >> 5) Minor wiring and screws install work (I
> volunteer to do this)
> >>
> >> 6) a Windows machine to run the software (I can
> donate one if needed)
> >>
> >> 7) Install software and key (I guess Jerrod has
> this info?)
> >>
> >>
> >> Just trying to document the steps needed in one
> place here for
> >> everyone. Finally, we need to pay Mitch back for
> the $237 he spent on
> >> the new tube. Below is an old email with details
> from the thread here
> >> "Laser cutter repair bounty"
> >>
> >>
> >> Adam: "I tried fixing it at the stupid shit
> hackathon but I could not
> >> find the water pump and the other rubber hose.
> There is otherwise
> >> everything you need to get the laser cutter
> running."
> >>
> >>
> >> Mitch: "Zach -- please see the email from Henner,
> copied below, for a
> >> list of things that needs to be done. And please
> see the Doodle sent by
> >> Rubin, copied below, to pick a time to meet to fix
> the lasercutter.
> >> Everyone -- I paid for the laser tube when I was
> in China. I would very
> >> much love to be paid back for it. It cost me:
> Laser tube: $120.37
> >> shipping from Shenzhen to SF: $117.00 Total:
> $237.37 Would people be
> >> kind enough to pitch in, and help collect for
> this? Thanks, Mitch."
> >>
> >> -------------------------------------- From:
> organicunity at hotmail.com
> >> To: noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
> Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2015
> >> 08:39:50 +0000 Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss]
> Laser cutter repair
> >> bounty .ExternalClass P { } I already offered to
> help with this....I
> >> thought Adam (and someone else) got it fixed
> recently. If someone will
> >> give me the low down on what needs to be done I'm
> happy to work on it.
> >> and hey, throwing money (and burritos) at poor
> techs like me definitely
> >> can get shit done! -Zach From:
> >> noisebridge-discuss-bounces at lists.noisebridge.net
> on behalf of Rubin
> >> Abdi Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2015 3:54 PM To:
> Henner Zeller Cc: James
> >> Sundquist; NB Discuss Subject: Re:
> [Noisebridge-discuss] Laser cutter
> >> repair bounty Do you want to make the laser go?
> Fill out the fucking
> >> Doodle... https://doodle.com/3rnzd5fy74kfwd9b On
> 11 July 2015 at 14:41,
> >> Henner Zeller wrote: I'd rather you guys organize
> some time where
> >> everyone who wants to help has time (get creative,
> there are some
> >> online find-free-time-slots-for-a-couple of people
> online. @rubin was
> >> using one of these recently). Money won't get
> things done, chip in an
> >> hour of your work. _That_ would help more getting
> this done. I am happy
> >> to help, but being alone working on that will take
> weeks of time here
> >> and there. What needs to be done, and with a few
> people, that would be
> >> doable in an afternoon. - check if we have the
> water pump and air pump
> >> in working condition. If not, get new ones. - Get
> a bucket of 5 Gallons
> >> of distilled water. - Connect the laser tube to
> the high voltage power
> >> supply (as far as I know, the new tube is already
> in the cutter)000 -
> >> calibrate things, mirrors and stuff. - make a free
> space in the corner
> >> of Noisebridge next to the windows, now full of DJ
> gear. - Find a table
> >> to put it on permanently. - Prepare an outlet in
> the window where we
> >> can connect the blower pipe. - Get the software
> installed somewhere (I
> >> think Jarrod has a license key somewhere and we
> need a windows
> >> machine). -h On 11 July 2015 at 14:31, jarrod
> hicks wrote: I too will
> >> match that. On Jul 11, 2015 12:32 PM, "James
> Sundquist" wrote: I will
> >> give $20 to anyone who has the laser cutter
> restored and calibrated at
> >> nb. --- Sent from Boxer | http://getboxer.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ________________________________
> >> From:
> noisebridge-discuss-bounces at lists.noisebridge.net
> >>
> <noisebridge-discuss-bounces at lists.noisebridge.net>
> on behalf of Zach R
> >> <organicunity at hotmail.com>
> >> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 5:54 PM
> >> To: NB Discuss; Eric Michaud
> >> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Moar Laser
> Cutter Infos
> >>
> >>
> >> OK so I took the laser cutter Main PCB home last
> night and did some
> >> work on it. I believe I got it all fixed up now,
> with the proper +5v
> >> and +24v LEDs lighting up now - it should be
> working 100% ! :D
> >>
> >> proof:
> >>
> >>http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b134/Segasonicfan/NB%20Hardwar
> e%20Class/20151120_172957_zpskt9g4iww.jpg
> >>
> >>http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b134/Segasonicfan/NB%20Hardwar
> e%20Class/20151120_172935_zpstz0a2oaj.jpg
> >><http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b134/Segasonicfan/NB%20Hardwa
> re%20Class/20151120_172957_zpskt9g4iww.jpg>
> >>
> >>
> >> Now the only thing left (aside from me fixing some
> crappy wiring jobs,
> >> installing the tube, and replacing screws and
> fuses) is the CONTROLLER
> >> BOARD that handles Parallel> USB. Here is a link
> to it again:
> >>
> >>https://moderndevice.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/fse-controll
> er-768x1024.jpg
> >>
> >>
> >> Has anyone received a response from the
> manufacturer about this? Eric,
> >> could you ask Full Spectrum Laser for the price
> cost for just this
> >> board (I know they quoted $700 for both, but I
> have the larger one
> >> working now). LMK.
> >>
> >> ________________________________
> >> From:
> noisebridge-discuss-bounces at lists.noisebridge.net
> >>
> <noisebridge-discuss-bounces at lists.noisebridge.net>
> on behalf of Zach R
> >> <organicunity at hotmail.com>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2015 11:39 PM
> >> To: NB Discuss
> >> Subject: [Noisebridge-discuss] Moar Laser Cutter
> Infos
> >>
> >>
> >> So I brought this up at the meeting tonight and
> then I did more
> >> research. Found some more useful info.
> >>
> >>
> >> model #: MLR-40
> >>
> >> 40w Full Spectrum Laser
> >>
> >> Manufacturer website: http://en.jnmydy.com/
> >>
> >>
> >> And here are the pictures I took:
> >>
> >>http://s18.photobucket.com/user/Segasonicfan/library/NB%20Hardwa
> re%20Class?sort=3&page=1
> >>
> >> Here is the controller board we are missing:
> >>
> >>https://moderndevice.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/fse-controll
> er-768x1024.jpg
> >>
> >>http://www.laserresale.com/?fa=app.view&it=5966<https://us-mg4.m
> ail.yahoo.com/compose?to=gwen246%40gmail.com>
> >>https://moderndevice.com/news/full-spectrum-engineering-40w-hobb
> y-laser/
> >> http://wiki.lvl1.org/Full_Spectrum_Laser
> >> http://www.therpf.com/showthread.php?t=140518
> >>
> >>
> https://fslaser.com/Manuals/FSL_40w_Hobby_Laser_Manual.pdf
> (manual)
> >>
> >>
> >> There is a second hand one for $1500 we could
> raise money for. That
> >> way we have this one for parts. That's one option.
> >>
> >> Im going to try emailing the manufacture to see
> what replacement costs
> >> would be.
> >>
> >>
> >> -Zach
> >>
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