[sudo-discuss] Liberation Ministries Proposal to Omni Commons -- Matt recuses himself, seeks another delegate

[Jenny Ryan]

I would think at least 2 months is reasonable, but 3 would be more fair to
LM.

Insofar as the other issues I brought up with the TV screens and the
vending machines, perhaps we could frame it as:
"One thing Omni has been working towards but could certainly use more of is
sharing food and making music together, and more instruments and
regularly-scheduled time for communing is something we're all excited
about! We're also enthusiastic about your intention to reach out to our
neighbors directly and invite them to participate.

However, some members have requested we not install the televisions in the
space as videogame consoles and movie theaters. Omni is a space for
creative and cultural production, participation and collaboration. We have
many resources available that would foster creativity and skill
acquisition, such as public computers, a film editing and post-production
studio, a community print shop, a crafty corner in the basement with art
supplies, regular film screenings using our many projection screens and
projectors, a science lab and a hackerspace full of tools and gadgets to
tinker with. Youth would be welcome to participate in any of a variety of
semi-structured weekly meetups, such as: Hardware Hack Night, Tuesdays in
sudo room; Fermentation Station, Wednesdays in CCL, Javascript Study Group,
Thursdays in SR; Linux Installfest, Fridays SR; and Sunday printmaking
workshops in MPM. We would very much welcome more youth-led activities.

Additionally, the vending machines in CCL are part of a sudo room project
in development, and we'd love your input on items we could include for
sale. See this wiki page for a list of items we're considering, such as
hygiene products and electronics kits: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Hack-o-mat
"

But maybe that's all a bit much and we can simply have the conversation
over the course of the trial period.

Jenny

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On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 12:04 PM, yar <yardenack at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 11:42 AM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
> > that's a good question.  So far the offer to have LM do their thing
> without
> > a 1-year commitment has not generated a response that I know of. Have
> they
> > changed their mind or are you attempting to broker this on your own?
> >
> > Personally I think that we could offer them a month of Sundays to see
> what
> > they're like.  Perhaps you can find out if they're interested in that.
>
> From the 8/27 notes:
> https://omnicommons.org/wiki/Event:2015/08/27_Delegates_Meeting
>
> --
> yar: would you feel comfortable with a 3 or 6 month trial period?
> cheryl: i'd have to go back to my group. having to move after 3 months
> would be disruptive. if we build we build, if we grow together we want
> to grow together.
> --
>
> From Stephen Novotny's most recent email:
> https://omnicommons.org/pipermail/consensus/2015-September/000638.html
>
> "They feel that it’s essential for them to have a space to begin their
> work and so they must begin investing their time elsewhere if the Omni
> cannot come to at least a preliminary consensus to move forward with
> their request for space on Sunday mornings and Friday evenings."
>
> I think "preliminary consensus" means yes, a shorter trial period
> would be better than nothing. It would keep them at the table long
> enough to continue building a relationship, and if they reject this
> offer because it's not a full year, at least we come out looking
> reasonable. Even if LM doesn't end up accepting a shorter period, I
> think the symbolic weight of the Omni community consenting to this
> shorter period would go a long way in mending our community fractures
> and keep our community from falling apart.
>
> I also think 2 or 3 months would look a lot better than 1 month, which
> is only four services. Would you block 2 months?
>
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