[sudo-discuss] a warm place to hack

robb sf99er at gmail.com
Sat Jan 9 04:12:42 PST 2016


i certainly like the sound of building an enclosed area upstairs & will
help w/same but it really hasn't been that cold the past few days.

i wonder if the worst is behind us.

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> Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2016 21:35:03 -0800
> From: Autonomous <autonomous666 at gmail.com>
> To: Jake <jake at spaz.org>
> Cc: "sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org"
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> >please write back if you think this is a good idea.
>
> Yeah, you can also look up one of the following heating methods: Kotatsu,
> Korsi, Mesa Camilla, or Sandali
>
> I have used something similar to stay warm in sub-freezing temperatures
> without having to rely on space heating.
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 6:23 PM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>
> > we are all starving for a warm place to hack, and sudoroom attendance is
> > reduced for obvious reasons.
> >
> > what we need is a warm room to hack, and i propose the following:
> >
> > we tarp above the server balcony of sudoroom, and seal the whole thing
> > like a room.  To enter from the steps you have to pull back a
> magnetically
> > sealed thing or maybe we can make a hinged door thing, i don't know.
> >
> > all the heat from the servers (and people hacking in there) will be
> > conserved and it will be social in addition to being warm.
> > I have some lighting that might be appropriate, to help people feel like
> > they're in the sun, as well as providing warmth.
> >
> > also it will be a nice chance to clean up that area and move things
> around
> > and make it a hacking zone again.
> >
> > HOW CAN I HELP?
> >
> > if you have tarps or sail material or blankets or rope or anything you
> > think could be used to close off the area, let's talk about it to see if
> it
> > will work.  If you bring it in on your own I hope you install it too - it
> > might take some carpentry or something to have places to attach it.
> > I think the ceiling should be about 10' high, or whatever it takes to
> > enclose the eastern shelves up there and securely seal to the wall.
> >
> > if you know what any of the stuff is upstairs, and think you can clean up
> > or move things elsewhere, please do that.  We have a lot of printers and
> I
> > don't know which ones are good or bad, and there are a lot of stereo
> > systems and computers up there that maybe need to be put back into
> > inventory, or put in the e-waste pile.
> >
> > also it's really dirty and dusty up there, so if you know where is a
> > vacuum and/or brooms/dustpans please help get it clean up there.
> >
> > please write back if you think this is a good idea.
> >
> > -jake
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> Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2016 00:20:45 -0800 (PST)
> From: Jake <jake at spaz.org>
> To: Autonomous <autonomous666 at gmail.com>
> Cc: "sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org"
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> On Sun, 3 Jan 2016, Autonomous wrote:
>
> > Yeah, you can also look up one of the following heating methods:
> Kotatsu, Korsi, Mesa Camilla, or Sandali
> > I have used something similar to stay warm in sub-freezing temperatures
> without having to rely on space heating.
>
> I like the idea of a Kotatsu, but I feel like it would be hell on my back
> and i wouldn't be able to maintain that pose for very long.  Maybe others
> feel differently.  But it would be nice to have the balcony area clean
> enough and nice enough for this kind of thing, and would hopefully attract
> the folks who have been avoiding sudoroom partially because it's so dirty.
>
> http://www.spoon-tamago.com/2012/01/16/diy-ikea-kotatsu-hack/
>
> http://astrobeano.blogspot.com/2014/01/kotatsu-made-in-scotland.html
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2016 01:19:08 -0800
> From: robb <sf99er at gmail.com>
> To: Sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org>
> Subject: [sudo-discuss] need power strips for sudoroom
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> >
> > this is a simple request.  If you have extra power strips, we could use
> > them at sudoroom.
> >
> > i has power strips
>
> >
> > also if you have those plastic UPS things we can use those too, even if
> > their batteries are no good.
> >
> > yes, please! more dead battery ups things. if we get any dead ups things,
> i would very much like to trade power strips for em - i wanna make arduino
> dmx dimmer packs
>
>
> > power strips can be left on the main table and we'll put them to work.
> >
>
> ok
>
> ~r
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> Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2016 01:32:44 -0800 (PST)
> From: Jake <jake at spaz.org>
> To: sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org
> Subject: [sudo-discuss] Hardware Hacking Tuesday sub this week?
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> I am having a busy week this week, and I wonder if anyone is available to
> host Hardware Hacking Tuesday at 7pm in case I am late or unavailable.
>
> It's easy, you just say hello to new people and tell them about the space,
> and help them find things if you know how, and introduce people if you
> think it makes sense.
>
> You just have to be able to show up on Tuesday by 7PM and you can leave at
> 10 or 11 if you want.
>
> thank you
> -jake
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2016 09:55:44 -0800
> From: Alex Peake <empowerthyself at gmail.com>
> To: Jake <jake at spaz.org>
> Cc: "sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org"
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> The heated room balcony is a great idea. It may be easier to make it
> structurally sound if you use insulation panels. At Home Depot, polystyrene
> panels 4x8' are around $8 and Polyiso high-insulation panels are $20 1" or
> $30 2". Those are going to allow you to cut an exact room out that will
> last and are similar to what is used to construct Hexayurts if you have
> heard of those being used in the desert for example. I would be glad to
> help with the build.
>
> On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 12:20 AM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 3 Jan 2016, Autonomous wrote:
> >
> > Yeah, you can also look up one of the following heating methods: Kotatsu,
> >> Korsi, Mesa Camilla, or Sandali
> >> I have used something similar to stay warm in sub-freezing temperatures
> >> without having to rely on space heating.
> >>
> >
> > I like the idea of a Kotatsu, but I feel like it would be hell on my back
> > and i wouldn't be able to maintain that pose for very long.  Maybe others
> > feel differently.  But it would be nice to have the balcony area clean
> > enough and nice enough for this kind of thing, and would hopefully
> attract
> > the folks who have been avoiding sudoroom partially because it's so
> dirty.
> >
> > http://www.spoon-tamago.com/2012/01/16/diy-ikea-kotatsu-hack/
> >
> > http://astrobeano.blogspot.com/2014/01/kotatsu-made-in-scotland.html
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> From: yar <yardenack at gmail.com>
> To: Jake <jake at spaz.org>
> Cc: sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org>
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> On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 6:23 PM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
> > we tarp above the server balcony of sudoroom, and seal the whole thing
> like
> > a room.  To enter from the steps you have to pull back a magnetically
> sealed
> > thing or maybe we can make a hinged door thing, i don't know.
>
> I like the idea of a warm space. Sucks that it won't be wheelchair
> accessible. Maybe once all the able-bodied people have been collected
> into one corner, we'll stop blocking the aisles with junk in the rest
> of the room. :)
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2016 14:37:01 -0800
> From: hol at gaskill.com
> To: Jake <jake at spaz.org>
> Cc: sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org
> Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] a warm place to hack
> Message-ID: <b3cb3c68a32015cf3d87b34559528c19 at gaskill.com>
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> I have the following to contribute if desired:
> -an old 1500W bionaire bh3950 space heater that I was going to use to
> make a shitty kotatsu, would draw ~15 amps so would need to have its own
> cord to a lightly loaded circuit.
> -some clear 6 mil poly sheeting, not sure how much left but is 10' wide
> and would make a good translucent wall for the hack mezzanine
>
> On 2016-01-04 00:20, Jake wrote:
> > On Sun, 3 Jan 2016, Autonomous wrote:
> >
> >> Yeah, you can also look up one of the following heating methods:
> >> Kotatsu, Korsi, Mesa Camilla, or Sandali
> >> I have used something similar to stay warm in sub-freezing
> >> temperatures without having to rely on space heating.
> >
> > I like the idea of a Kotatsu, but I feel like it would be hell on my
> > back and i wouldn't be able to maintain that pose for very long.
> > Maybe others feel differently.  But it would be nice to have the
> > balcony area clean enough and nice enough for this kind of thing, and
> > would hopefully attract the folks who have been avoiding sudoroom
> > partially because it's so dirty.
> >
> > http://www.spoon-tamago.com/2012/01/16/diy-ikea-kotatsu-hack/
> >
> > http://astrobeano.blogspot.com/2014/01/kotatsu-made-in-scotland.html
> > _______________________________________________
> > sudo-discuss mailing list
> > sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org
> > https://sudoroom.org/lists/listinfo/sudo-discuss
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> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2016 14:40:44 -0800
> From: hol at gaskill.com
> To: Alex Peake <empowerthyself at gmail.com>
> Cc: sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org
> Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] a warm place to hack
> Message-ID: <d28b94dad71e7afe5c85d5aae27a6bc2 at gaskill.com>
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>  i forget, is polyisocyanurate super fire retardant or super flammable?
> would be good to span the 8' without any other support. otherwise the
> 1.5" styrofoam with 2x2 "studs" should work well.
>
> On 2016-01-04 09:55, Alex Peake wrote:
>
> > The heated room balcony is a great idea. It may be easier to make it
> structurally sound if you use insulation panels. At Home Depot, polystyrene
> panels 4x8' are around $8 and Polyiso high-insulation panels are $20 1" or
> $30 2". Those are going to allow you to cut an exact room out that will
> last and are similar to what is used to construct Hexayurts if you have
> heard of those being used in the desert for example. I would be glad to
> help with the build.
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 12:20 AM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
> > On Sun, 3 Jan 2016, Autonomous wrote:
> >
> > Yeah, you can also look up one of the following heating methods:
> Kotatsu, Korsi, Mesa Camilla, or Sandali
> > I have used something similar to stay warm in sub-freezing temperatures
> without having to rely on space heating. I like the idea of a Kotatsu, but
> I feel like it would be hell on my back and i wouldn't be able to maintain
> that pose for very long. Maybe others feel differently. But it would be
> nice to have the balcony area clean enough and nice enough for this kind of
> thing, and would hopefully attract the folks who have been avoiding
> sudoroom partially because it's so dirty.
> >
> > http://www.spoon-tamago.com/2012/01/16/diy-ikea-kotatsu-hack/ [1]
> >
> > http://astrobeano.blogspot.com/2014/01/kotatsu-made-in-scotland.html [2]
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> Links:
> ------
> [1] http://www.spoon-tamago.com/2012/01/16/diy-ikea-kotatsu-hack/
> [2] http://astrobeano.blogspot.com/2014/01/kotatsu-made-in-scotland.html
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> Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 13:05:52 -0800
> From: Jenny Ryan <tunabananas at gmail.com>
> To: sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org>
> Subject: [sudo-discuss] Fwd: [omni-discuss] Application for membership
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> New Omni member application! We can discuss it at the Wednesday meeting.
>
> Cheers,
> Jenny
>
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> Date: Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 12:07 PM
> Subject: [omni-discuss] Application for membership - The Mess
> To: "discuss at lists.omnicommons.org" <discuss at lists.omnicommons.org>, "
> consensus at lists.omnicommons.org" <consensus at lists.omnicommons.org>
> Cc: Renée <rmlevesque at gmail.com>, "Sang S. Kim" <sangkimsf at gmail.com>
>
>
>
> *Hi everyone, The Mess Sketch Comedy Troupe had rehearsals here a month or
> so ago. They love the space and what we are doing and decided to apply to
> be a member collective. They will be at the delegates meeting on Thursday
> to answer questions. Please discuss their application with your
> collectives. *
>
> 1. Mission Statement
>
> THE MESS is a theatre troupe and collective of writers, dancers, singers,
> actors, and mischief makers who are out to do comedy that is a reflection
> of the Bay Area’s diverse culture.
>
> 2. Origin and Group History
>
> THE MESS is a sketch comedy troupe based in California's East Bay with
> writers, dancers, singers, actors, and mischief makers from all over the
> globe. In Fall 2011, Renée LeVesque and a group of theatre folks began
> hosting a weekly pirate radio show on Radio Valencia in San Francisco. What
> they quickly discovered is that doing live action theatre was their real
> passion. They began asking the question, what if instead of trying to
> convince a big theatre to do a show we liked, we just did our own show with
> people whose work we enjoyed? What if we cast people who were not only
> great actors, but willing to take risks and perform parts they normally
> wouldn’t get cast for? What if we created a room for comedy writers that
> was welcoming, where they could collaborate on scripts rather than compete
> for stage time? The group rented space for trade at Chez Poulet, a
> warehouse in San Francisco’s mission district. They rehearsed, pooled their
> resources, and on Valentine’s Day 2012 put on their very first show at
> Stage Werx SF.
>
> As of 2015, the group has moved to the East Bay, expanded its troupe to
> include over 30 performers, directors, writers, and designers. Each show is
> a collective effort with each member contributing to the performance from
> its creation to final bow. Everyone works, everyone participates, everyone
> has a seat at the comedy table with a focus on performances that celebrate
> the Bay Area’s diversity, and create immersive comedic experiences with a
> lean toward the theatrical.
>
> 3. How would you participate in and contribute to the Omni?
>
> THE MESS would like to be the house performance troupe at The Omni Commons.
> To us that would mean participating in open houses, community outreach and
> any other collective activity that The Omni hosts. We would also have
> representatives participate in improving/repairing the Ballroom Space, the
> Disco Room, and helping to maintain the other common spaces. THE MESS would
> also host workshops, classes, and performances at The Omni to increase
> interest and appreciation for the space itself and for the collectives that
> call the Omni home.
>
> 4. How does your collective support itself financially? What would you be
> able to afford in rent?
>
> THE MESS sells tickets to each show at the rate of $15 plus (sliding
> scale). Our ticket sales average 40- 60 people per performance. We plan to
> use ticket sale revenue to help the Omni with its expenses. At present, we
> can afford $300 per month total plus a share of the common expenses such as
> utilities. If we are able to increase programing in 2016 (shows, workshops,
> etc.), we would be able to discuss contributing more.
>
> 5. What are your space needs, especially for dedicated (locked or not
> shared) space?
>
> Ideally, we would like to steward, share and help improve and maintain the
> Disco Room. Essentially, our typical needs are average 3 to 4 nights a week
> in the evenings from approximately 6PM to 10PM.
>
> In addition, we would volunteer to help coordinate the calendar for other
> events that the Collective, Delegates and Commons wish to hold in the Disco
> room. Improvements, we would like to build include a locked cabinet
> (approx. 8 feet x 8 feet) in the Disco Room to store equipment, props, and
> costumes.
>
> Any other improvements we can help assist to support the Omni in renting
> out the space to other groups in the community.
>
> 6. Statement of Solidarity
> We, The Mess agree and are committed to the Omni Collective’s shared
> political vision of more equitable communing of resources and meeting human
> needs over private interests or corporate profit. If accepted as a member
> collective, we promise to adhere to the Collectives’ solidarity and
> anti-capitalist political perspective. The Mess has always and will
> continue to practice openness, diversity and community through the arts and
> in general practice.
>
> 7. Additional Information
>
> https://www.facebook.com/EastBayMess/?fref=ts
>
> http://sketchmess.com
>
> mess.sketch at gmail.com
>
> Renée LeVesque - Rabble Rouser - rmlevesque at gmail.com - Cell:
> 951.533.0508
> Spencer Bainbridge - Head Writer
> Sang S. Kim - Production Manager
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>
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> Message: 10
> Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 19:19:45 -0800
> From: Matthew Senate <mattsenate at gmail.com>
> To: "discuss at lists.omnicommons.org" <discuss at lists.omnicommons.org>,
>         sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org>
> Subject: [sudo-discuss] Friends of Goto to gather sat 1/9 @ 7pm
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> Hey all,
>
> Please join me this Saturday 1/9 at 7pm at Omni Commons to share and
> reflect on the untimely passing of a good friend. I'd really like to
> discuss informally with others some ways to respond to this situation in
> our community.
>
> For anyone who had the privilege to meet Goto during his brief visits to
> Omni Commons and Sudo Room this fall, I have some sad news:
>
> On November 14th of 2015, Goto and another person were found off the 101 in
> Richardson Grove near Garberville. They had been ejected from a car that
> came off the highway heading North. The highway patrol was unable to
> identify which of the two men were driving and no criminal charges were
> pursued. Goto was found deceased on the scene, the other person was
> seriously injured and transferred to a hospital.
>
> According to the Humboldt County Coroner I spoke with, this second person
> was in a coma and probably did not come out of it. The CHP was not willing
> / able to provide me with any contact information of this other person or
> their family, and I have been unable to proceed further on this thread.
>
> I was also informed by the Coroner that there was alcohol found in the
> blood of both victims. The CHP reported alcohol was found in the car as
> well.
>
> It is certainly unclear what exactly happened, what precisely led to this
> crash, but regardless, this is a very sad tragedy, and most importantly,
> Goto will be sorely missed.
>
> For those that did not know him, you are very welcome to join and learn
> about a dear friend and comrade who has left us in body, but not in spirit.
>
> Love and solidarity,
> Matt Senate
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> Message: 11
> Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 20:00:15 -0800
> From: Ed Biow <biow at riseup.net>
> To: sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org
> Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] a warm place to hack
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>
> It sounds like kind of a noisy, hellish place, what with the server
> noise, the claustrophobia, to say nothing of the high density of geeks,
> but I guess I'm pretty well insulated so I'm failing to see the charm.
> That typed, I do have a truck for transport, and a few spare tarps left
> over from Occupy as well as some spare lights and power strips that
> would be required to make such a place semi-habitable.  Give me a holler
> if and when you want this to happen.
>
> Ed
>
> On 01/03/2016 08:14 PM, sudo-discuss-request at lists.sudoroom.org wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2016 20:14:15 -0800
> > From: "danarauz at gmail.com" <danarauz at gmail.com>
> > To: Max B <maxb.personal at gmail.com>
> > Cc: sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org>
> > Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] a warm place to hack
> > Message-ID:
> >       <CAPMS6zbN7Cr5+9+fKPSQ2tfeYZdf_d4=
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> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > -about making a box there: keep in mind that the servers-appliances noise
> > may be annoying after awhile.
> >
> > -however, i have two wood 4'x8' lattices for donation if wanted. sample
> > image attached.
> >
> > -all i ask is for someone with a truck/van to be pick up (in san rafael)
> > though. -i cannot carry them in my little car otherwise I would offer
> > deliver as well.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 7:19 PM, Max B <maxb.personal at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> There is a lot of mesh stuff up there as well as the server/network
> >> infrastructure. I'd want one of the mesh folks to be around for
> cleaning if
> >> possible.
> >>
> >> On January 3, 2016 6:23:11 PM PST, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> we are all starving for a warm place to hack, and sudoroom attendance
> is
> >>> reduced for obvious reasons.
> >>>
> >>> what we need is a warm room to hack, and i propose the following:
> >>>
> >>> we tarp above the server balcony of sudoroom, and seal the whole thing
> >>> like a room.  To enter from the steps you have to pull back a
> magnetically
> >>> sealed thing or maybe we can make a hinged door thing, i don't know.
> >>>
> >>> all the heat from the servers (and people hacking in there) will be
> >>> conserved and it will be social in addition to being warm.
> >>> I have some lighting that might be appropriate, to help people feel
> like
> >>> they're in the sun, as well as providing warmth.
> >>>
> >>> also it will be a nice chance to clean up that area and move things
> around
> >>> and make it a hacking zone again.
> >>>
> >>> HOW CAN I HELP?
> >>>
> >>> if you have tarps or sail material or blankets or rope or anything you
> >>> think could be used to close off the
> >>> area, let's talk about it to see if
> >>> it will work.  If you bring it in on your own I hope you install it
> too -
> >>> it might take some carpentry or something to have places to attach it.
> >>> I think the ceiling should be about 10' high, or whatever it takes to
> >>> enclose the eastern shelves up there and securely seal to the wall.
> >>>
> >>> if you know what any of the stuff is upstairs, and think you can clean
> up
> >>> or move things elsewhere, please do that.  We have a lot of printers
> and I
> >>> don't know which ones are good or bad, and there are a lot of stereo
> >>> systems and computers up there that maybe need to be put back into
> >>> inventory, or put in the e-waste pile.
> >>>
> >>> also it's really dirty and dusty up there, so if you know where is a
> >>> vacuum and/or brooms/dustpans please help get it clean up there.
> >>>
> >>> please write back if you think this is a good idea.
> >>>
> >>> -jake
> >>> ------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> sudo-discuss mailing list
> >>> sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org
> >>> https://sudoroom.org/lists/listinfo/sudo-discuss
> >>>
> >>>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> sudo-discuss mailing list
> >> sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org
> >> https://sudoroom.org/lists/listinfo/sudo-discuss
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 13:23:20 -0800
> From: Hilary Naylor <hnaylor at gmail.com>
> To: SudoRoom <sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org>
> Subject: [sudo-discuss] Do you have an awesome project?
> Message-ID:
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>
> Hi Sudoers,
>
> I'm a trustee for the Bay Area chapter of the Awesome Foundation, and every
> month we give $1000 to an awesome project. Art, whimsy, social endeavors...
> See what we think is awesome at the link below. There's an easy
> six-question application and no reporting requirements or strings attached
> with the grant.
>
> http://www.awesomefoundation.org/en/chapters/sf
>
> Are you doing something awesome? Do you know someone who is? Tell them to
> apply!
> And feel free to send this out to any liststervs of awesome people.
>
> Thanks,
> Hilary
> for The Awesome Foundation
> sf at awesomefoundation.org
> ---
> Hilary Naylor, Ph.D.
> www.a2zed.us
> Oakland CA
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> Message: 13
> Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2016 18:34:24 -0800 (PST)
> From: Jake <jake at spaz.org>
> To: Hol Gaskill <hol at gaskill.com>
> Cc: sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org
> Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] a warm place to hack
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> > i forget, is polyisocyanurate super fire retardant or super flammable?
> > would be good to span the 8' without any other support.  otherwise the
> > 1.5" styrofoam with 2x2 "studs" should work well.
>
> It appears that it is fire retardant for our purposes, however, if the
> balcony under it were to catch fire, and the polyisocyanurate were caught
> up in the conflagration, you would want to leave to avoid breathing the
> fumes from the superheated polyisocyanurate as they would be toxic.
>
> But I think we should use transparent material for the north and west
> sides, so that the space is visually inclusive.  I can bring in
> large single-pane windows and we can stick it all together.
>
> -jake
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2016 10:58:16 -0800
> From: hol at gaskill.com
> To: sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org
> Subject: [sudo-discuss] TAZ status?
> Message-ID: <3bdc9eac1a1cfcaa7997834840118178 at gaskill.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>
> I was over there for the first time in a while yesterday and noticed the
> taz sitting lonely on the ground.  Is it working or does it need some
> TLC?
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 11:29:55 -0800
> From: Marc Juul <juul at labitat.dk>
> To: Hol Gaskill <hol at gaskill.com>
> Cc: sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org>
> Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] TAZ status?
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> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 10:58 AM, <hol at gaskill.com> wrote:
>
> > I was over there for the first time in a while yesterday and noticed the
> > taz sitting lonely on the ground.  Is it working or does it need some
> TLC?
> >
>
> Last I heard someone was complaining that the extruder was having trouble.
> If someone wants to fix it up I'm willing to pitch in some $ for parts.
>
> --
> marc/juul
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> Message: 16
> Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 11:45:01 -0800
> From: Morgan Allen <morganrallen at gmail.com>
> To: Marc Juul <juul at labitat.dk>
> Cc: sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org>
> Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] TAZ status?
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> I think there is also another over all problem. When I was trying to use
> the Type-A machine
> there was a intermittent popping sound. I read this is caused by the PLA
> absorbing moisture from the air. In the long run we should build a storage
> box with silica gel in it or similar.
>
> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 11:29 AM, Marc Juul <juul at labitat.dk> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 10:58 AM, <hol at gaskill.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I was over there for the first time in a while yesterday and noticed the
> >> taz sitting lonely on the ground.  Is it working or does it need some
> TLC?
> >>
> >
> > Last I heard someone was complaining that the extruder was having
> trouble.
> > If someone wants to fix it up I'm willing to pitch in some $ for parts.
> >
> > --
> > marc/juul
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > sudo-discuss mailing list
> > sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org
> > https://sudoroom.org/lists/listinfo/sudo-discuss
> >
> >
>
>
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> Message: 17
> Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 12:13:58 -0800
> From: "Patrik D'haeseleer" <patrikd at gmail.com>
> To: Morgan Allen <morganrallen at gmail.com>
> Cc: sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org>
> Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] TAZ status?
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> Yeah, both PLA and ABS are somewhat moisture sensitive, which is why
> filament is typically shipped in sealed plastic.
>
> I figured someone surely must have posted a solution on Thingiverse, and
> found this beauty:
>
> Moisture-free filament spool container / holder
> <http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:457359>
>
>
> Didn't we have an entire cardboard box full of expired silica gel inserts
> at one time? Those can be easily regenerated by heating them in an oven or
> microwave.
>
> Patrik
>
> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 11:45 AM, Morgan Allen <morganrallen at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I think there is also another over all problem. When I was trying to use
> > the Type-A machine
> > there was a intermittent popping sound. I read this is caused by the PLA
> > absorbing moisture from the air. In the long run we should build a
> storage
> > box with silica gel in it or similar.
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 11:29 AM, Marc Juul <juul at labitat.dk> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 10:58 AM, <hol at gaskill.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I was over there for the first time in a while yesterday and noticed
> the
> >>> taz sitting lonely on the ground.  Is it working or does it need some
> TLC?
> >>>
> >>
> >> Last I heard someone was complaining that the extruder was having
> >> trouble. If someone wants to fix it up I'm willing to pitch in some $
> for
> >> parts.
> >>
> >> --
> >> marc/juul
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> sudo-discuss mailing list
> >> sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org
> >> https://sudoroom.org/lists/listinfo/sudo-discuss
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
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> Message: 18
> Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 16:22:55 -0500
> From: Adam <adam at aperture.systems>
> To: Jake <jake at spaz.org>
> Cc: Sudo room <sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org>
> Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] a warm place to hack
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> "Mr. Buddy" portable propane heaters are safe to use in tents /
> enclosed spaces, and cost $99.
> -^-^-^-^-^-
> Adam Munich - Builder of wild things (and organizations)
> Tel: +1-650-452-0554
>
> One must learn by doing, for though you think you know, you have no
> certainty until you try. The key to mastering any skill is nothing
> more than passion and persistence.
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 9:34 PM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
> >> i forget, is polyisocyanurate super fire retardant or super flammable?
> >> would be good to span the 8' without any other support.  otherwise the
> 1.5"
> >> styrofoam with 2x2 "studs" should work well.
> >
> >
> > It appears that it is fire retardant for our purposes, however, if the
> > balcony under it were to catch fire, and the polyisocyanurate were
> caught up
> > in the conflagration, you would want to leave to avoid breathing the
> fumes
> > from the superheated polyisocyanurate as they would be toxic.
> >
> > But I think we should use transparent material for the north and west
> sides,
> > so that the space is visually inclusive.  I can bring in large
> single-pane
> > windows and we can stick it all together.
> >
> > -jake
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > sudo-discuss mailing list
> > sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org
> > https://sudoroom.org/lists/listinfo/sudo-discuss
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 19
> Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 16:22:54 -0800
> From: Morgan Allen <morganrallen at gmail.com>
> To: "Patrik D'haeseleer" <patrikd at gmail.com>
> Cc: sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org>
> Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] TAZ status?
> Message-ID:
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> Oh, I wasn't aware ABS was prone to moisture problems also.
>
> Plastic storage bin looks like a good solution
>
> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 12:13 PM, Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Yeah, both PLA and ABS are somewhat moisture sensitive, which is why
> > filament is typically shipped in sealed plastic.
> >
> > I figured someone surely must have posted a solution on Thingiverse, and
> > found this beauty:
> >
> > Moisture-free filament spool container / holder
> > <http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:457359>
> >
> >
> > Didn't we have an entire cardboard box full of expired silica gel inserts
> > at one time? Those can be easily regenerated by heating them in an oven
> or
> > microwave.
> >
> > Patrik
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 11:45 AM, Morgan Allen <morganrallen at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I think there is also another over all problem. When I was trying to use
> >> the Type-A machine
> >> there was a intermittent popping sound. I read this is caused by the PLA
> >> absorbing moisture from the air. In the long run we should build a
> storage
> >> box with silica gel in it or similar.
> >>
> >> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 11:29 AM, Marc Juul <juul at labitat.dk> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 10:58 AM, <hol at gaskill.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I was over there for the first time in a while yesterday and noticed
> >>>> the taz sitting lonely on the ground.  Is it working or does it need
> some
> >>>> TLC?
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Last I heard someone was complaining that the extruder was having
> >>> trouble. If someone wants to fix it up I'm willing to pitch in some $
> for
> >>> parts.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> marc/juul
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> sudo-discuss mailing list
> >>> sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org
> >>> https://sudoroom.org/lists/listinfo/sudo-discuss
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
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> Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 02:14:59 -0800
> From: Marc Juul <juul at labitat.dk>
> To: Jake <jake at spaz.org>
> Cc: sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org>
> Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] a warm place to hack
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> On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 6:23 PM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>
> > we are all starving for a warm place to hack, and sudoroom attendance is
> > reduced for obvious reasons.
> >
> > what we need is a warm room to hack, and i propose the following:
> >
> > we tarp above the server balcony of sudoroom, and seal the whole thing
> > like a room.  To enter from the steps you have to pull back a
> magnetically
> > sealed thing or maybe we can make a hinged door thing, i don't know.
> >
> > all the heat from the servers (and people hacking in there) will be
> > conserved and it will be social in addition to being warm.
> > I have some lighting that might be appropriate, to help people feel like
> > they're in the sun, as well as providing warmth.
> >
> > also it will be a nice chance to clean up that area and move things
> around
> > and make it a hacking zone again.
> >
> > HOW CAN I HELP?
> >
> > if you have tarps or sail material or blankets or rope or anything you
> > think could be used to close off the area, let's talk about it to see if
> it
> > will work.  If you bring it in on your own I hope you install it too - it
> > might take some carpentry or something to have places to attach it.
> > I think the ceiling should be about 10' high, or whatever it takes to
> > enclose the eastern shelves up there and securely seal to the wall.
> >
> > if you know what any of the stuff is upstairs, and think you can clean up
> > or move things elsewhere, please do that.  We have a lot of printers and
> I
> > don't know which ones are good or bad, and there are a lot of stereo
> > systems and computers up there that maybe need to be put back into
> > inventory, or put in the e-waste pile.
> >
> > also it's really dirty and dusty up there, so if you know where is a
> > vacuum and/or brooms/dustpans please help get it clean up there.
> >
> > please write back if you think this is a good idea.
> >
>
> That area is not very large, especially with the servers. Only 4-5 people
> would fit up there, and we do need a place for servers, printers,
> laminators and that kinda stuff. If you want to clean stuff out maybe start
> by removing the radio gear you dumped in the big wire rack. The mesh and
> server area stuff is actually reasonably organized and being used, so I'd
> like to not move that somewhere else and the servers should have _more_
> room around them so people can actually get to them.
>
> If you want a small heated space to hack in sudo then CCL is getting one of
> these (and I'm pretty sure we don't need it):
>
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005EG3FFM?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00
>
> We could also just get a bunch of these:
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA08C14J2030
>
> Which would solve the problem for anyone sitting down and anyone not
> sitting down usually won't have a problem.
>
> --
> marc/juul
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