[sudo-discuss] Any web developers new to the game at SudoRoom?

[Candace Lazarou]

I'm grateful you exist, Romy :)
On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 7:44 PM Romy Ilano <romy at snowyla.com> wrote:

> Candace,
>
> Great points! I'm very grateful that Women Who Code exists-- and it's
> helped me appreciate other points of view.
>
> Keep up the great work!
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> Romy Ilano
> romy at snowyla.com
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> On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 5:56 PM, Candace Lazarou <candacelazarou at gmail.com
> > wrote:
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>> Hey All, sorry so late on this thread - many of the Women Who Code and
>> Girl Develop IT workshops include parts of the night dedicated to inviting
>> women to meet with HR and staff engineers from the hosting company, for the
>> specific purpose of networking.  For instance, this one
>>
>> http://www.meetup.com/Women-Who-Code-East-Bay/events/232603088/
>>
>> I would suggest that she attend workshops rather than study groups for
>> this purpose.
>>
>> As far as limiting attendance to women-only events, yes, it's probably
>> not a good idea to do that.  But women/trans/nonbinary-centric meetups are
>> not there to substitute the "open" events (which are, without name,
>> cisgendered male centric), they're there to find a community that might not
>> be found otherwise.  For some folks, it's encouraging to see people like
>> them represented in the field that they strive to be a part of.  As far as
>> the meetup percentage weighing heavy on the "dilettante"... and with all
>> due respect Romy, that's some cold blooded verbage, you were new once
>> too... encouraging her to attend the workshops meant for a more advanced
>> demographic will help with that.
>>
>> Very obvious caveat - I'm one of the directors of Women Who Code.
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 3, 2016 at 11:06 AM, Romy Ilano <romy at snowyla.com> wrote:
>>
>>> CJ,
>>>
>>> SudoRoom events are more hack at your own pace. They are welcoming to
>>> people who are willing to work hard and self-direct themselves...
>>>
>>> I wouldn't ever want SudoRoom to be a place where hackers are obligated
>>> to each and mentor people who are not genuinely interested in creating or
>>> doing software though!
>>>
>>> I have personally never felt unwelcome at any tech events full of
>>> engineers -- perhaps I may have been, maybe I have a thick skin. But the
>>> mentality of most Silicon Valley events is that they are willing to be
>>> patient and teach people who are willing to learn.
>>> Most of my negative experiences in tech have actually come from
>>> non-technically oriented women (even minorities) and business guys !  But
>>> never really engineers.
>>>
>>>  I think I was just lucky!
>>>
>>> I'm putting you in touch with her -> she is a great person.
>>>
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Romy
>>>
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
>>> Romy Ilano
>>> romy at snowyla.com
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>>>
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>>> On Sun, Jul 3, 2016 at 11:00 AM, CJ Joulain <joulain at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi everyone.  :-)  I recently joined this listserv and meant to send an
>>>> introduction earlier.  Romy's message was a reminder to virtually say hey.
>>>> I've been meaning to check out Omni Commons more; I've been to a few
>>>> CounterCultureLabs events but haven't visited SudoRoom yet.
>>>>
>>>> I'm also a recent bootcamp graduate from a non-traditional background.
>>>> There are tons of meetups in the Bay Area but tough to find a good match,
>>>> particularly those who are new to the field.  And, frankly, folks aren't
>>>> always welcoming.  I agree that more than inspirational talks are needed
>>>> for someone to transition into a different career with the adequate
>>>> technical training that they need.  Romy, I'd be interested in getting in
>>>> touch with your friend.  There are a few groups out there that are
>>>> self-study/new to the field oriented.  I'm also a co-organizer for a
>>>> Latinxs in Tech meetup and many of our members were self-taught or went to
>>>> bootcamps and can relate to what your friend is going through.
>>>>
>>>> Would you say SudoRoom events tend to be hack-at-your-own pace oriented?
>>>>
>>>> Take care,
>>>> CJ
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jul 3, 2016 at 8:35 AM, Romy Ilano <romy at snowyla.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I know a cool young lady who happens to have an awesome kid! She
>>>>> completed one of those developer bootcamps and is looking for a job.
>>>>>
>>>>> I feel guilty because I know nothing about the web development
>>>>> industry  for boot camp graduates- I know people will have many good and
>>>>> bad things to say about boot camps or the development industry!
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyway, I met a lot of nice people who were doing javascript workshops
>>>>> .Are these still going on? I keep sending her to these nice but ultimately
>>>>> not very helpful for getting a job or becoming great at programming all
>>>>> women events that are sponsored by tech companies. ( These events are cool
>>>>> once in a while and are a great way for men to show support, but going only
>>>>> to all women events could handicap her IMHO. For beginners they are nice
>>>>> and augment networking but should not replace it - She needs more than
>>>>> inspirational talks, she needs mentorship and technical schools and
>>>>> connections)
>>>>>
>>>>> Are there other boot camp graduates who are interested in hanging out
>>>>> ? I've also been guiding her to contribute to open source. I think there
>>>>> was a javascript event, right ?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> =============================
>>>>>
>>>>> Romy Ilano
>>>>> romy at snowyla.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
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