[sudo-discuss] Any web developers new to the game at SudoRoom?

[Romy Ilano]

Candace,

Great points! I'm very grateful that Women Who Code exists-- and it's
helped me appreciate other points of view.

Keep up the great work!



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Romy Ilano
romy at snowyla.com



On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 5:56 PM, Candace Lazarou <candacelazarou at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hey All, sorry so late on this thread - many of the Women Who Code and
> Girl Develop IT workshops include parts of the night dedicated to inviting
> women to meet with HR and staff engineers from the hosting company, for the
> specific purpose of networking.  For instance, this one
>
> http://www.meetup.com/Women-Who-Code-East-Bay/events/232603088/
>
> I would suggest that she attend workshops rather than study groups for
> this purpose.
>
> As far as limiting attendance to women-only events, yes, it's probably not
> a good idea to do that.  But women/trans/nonbinary-centric meetups are not
> there to substitute the "open" events (which are, without name, cisgendered
> male centric), they're there to find a community that might not be found
> otherwise.  For some folks, it's encouraging to see people like them
> represented in the field that they strive to be a part of.  As far as the
> meetup percentage weighing heavy on the "dilettante"... and with all due
> respect Romy, that's some cold blooded verbage, you were new once too...
> encouraging her to attend the workshops meant for a more advanced
> demographic will help with that.
>
> Very obvious caveat - I'm one of the directors of Women Who Code.
>
> On Sun, Jul 3, 2016 at 11:06 AM, Romy Ilano <romy at snowyla.com> wrote:
>
>> CJ,
>>
>> SudoRoom events are more hack at your own pace. They are welcoming to
>> people who are willing to work hard and self-direct themselves...
>>
>> I wouldn't ever want SudoRoom to be a place where hackers are obligated
>> to each and mentor people who are not genuinely interested in creating or
>> doing software though!
>>
>> I have personally never felt unwelcome at any tech events full of
>> engineers -- perhaps I may have been, maybe I have a thick skin. But the
>> mentality of most Silicon Valley events is that they are willing to be
>> patient and teach people who are willing to learn.
>> Most of my negative experiences in tech have actually come from
>> non-technically oriented women (even minorities) and business guys !  But
>> never really engineers.
>>
>>  I think I was just lucky!
>>
>> I'm putting you in touch with her -> she is a great person.
>>
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Romy
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> =============================
>>
>> Romy Ilano
>> romy at snowyla.com
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 3, 2016 at 11:00 AM, CJ Joulain <joulain at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everyone.  :-)  I recently joined this listserv and meant to send an
>>> introduction earlier.  Romy's message was a reminder to virtually say hey.
>>> I've been meaning to check out Omni Commons more; I've been to a few
>>> CounterCultureLabs events but haven't visited SudoRoom yet.
>>>
>>> I'm also a recent bootcamp graduate from a non-traditional background.
>>> There are tons of meetups in the Bay Area but tough to find a good match,
>>> particularly those who are new to the field.  And, frankly, folks aren't
>>> always welcoming.  I agree that more than inspirational talks are needed
>>> for someone to transition into a different career with the adequate
>>> technical training that they need.  Romy, I'd be interested in getting in
>>> touch with your friend.  There are a few groups out there that are
>>> self-study/new to the field oriented.  I'm also a co-organizer for a
>>> Latinxs in Tech meetup and many of our members were self-taught or went to
>>> bootcamps and can relate to what your friend is going through.
>>>
>>> Would you say SudoRoom events tend to be hack-at-your-own pace oriented?
>>>
>>> Take care,
>>> CJ
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 3, 2016 at 8:35 AM, Romy Ilano <romy at snowyla.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I know a cool young lady who happens to have an awesome kid! She
>>>> completed one of those developer bootcamps and is looking for a job.
>>>>
>>>> I feel guilty because I know nothing about the web development industry
>>>>  for boot camp graduates- I know people will have many good and bad things
>>>> to say about boot camps or the development industry!
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, I met a lot of nice people who were doing javascript workshops
>>>> .Are these still going on? I keep sending her to these nice but ultimately
>>>> not very helpful for getting a job or becoming great at programming all
>>>> women events that are sponsored by tech companies. ( These events are cool
>>>> once in a while and are a great way for men to show support, but going only
>>>> to all women events could handicap her IMHO. For beginners they are nice
>>>> and augment networking but should not replace it - She needs more than
>>>> inspirational talks, she needs mentorship and technical schools and
>>>> connections)
>>>>
>>>> Are there other boot camp graduates who are interested in hanging out ?
>>>> I've also been guiding her to contribute to open source. I think there was
>>>> a javascript event, right ?
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> Romy Ilano
>>>> romy at snowyla.com
>>>>
>>>>
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