[sudo-discuss] sudoroom vinyl cutter setup and training

Jake jake at spaz.org
Sun Mar 26 16:38:06 PDT 2017


bump!  is anyone available to meet with Cory so that we can learn how to use
the vinyl cutter he donated?

-jake

On Fri, 3 Feb 2017, Cory Albert wrote:

> I am usually free Friday nights, I am usually in classes Monday thru
> Thursday nights.   Daytime during the week or weekend is usually more
> flexible for me except when I have big work projects going on.
>
> On Jan 31, 2017 10:41 AM, <hol at gaskill.com> wrote:
>
>> Could we do this tonight at hardware hack night?  I moved the large format
>> scanner from basement (which someone put in the e-waste pile?) that would
>> be awesome for digitizing hand-drawn designs to convert to vector and run
>> off on the vinyl cutter.  Should be a dual rs232 card somewhere there which
>> I am happy to install physically and driverally in a spare PC.  Might even
>> make sense to set this up in the basement next to other printy equipment.
>> Thanks again for the donation!
>>
>> On 2017-01-27 11:59, Cory Albert wrote:
>>
>> I think I got the gender bender covered.  I have three and one is bound to
>> be straight through
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 11:51 AM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>>
>>> here i'm replying to you and the sudoroom discuss list.
>>>
>>> does anyone at sudoroom want to host Cory to set up and demonstrate use
>>> of the
>>> vinyl cutter he donated?  we will need a computer running windows
>>> (perhaps the
>>> laser cutter laptop?) and a DB9 gender bender adaptor for our rs232 to usb
>>> adaptor to fit.
>>>
>>> On Fri, 27 Jan 2017, Cory Albert wrote:
>>>
>>> Fridays or during the day weekdays are usually best for me.  Can you add
>>>> the sudoroom to this thread?  Krystof is also interested in learning to
>>>> use
>>>> it as well but I don't think I have his email
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 27, 2017 2:47 AM, "Jake" <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> if you email the sudoroom discuss list about it, there will surely be
>>>> people
>>>> who want to meet with you to learn how to use the vinyl cutter
>>>>
>>>> I'm at sudoroom every tuesday night,but when you came by i didn't arrive
>>>> until
>>>> right after you left.
>>>>
>>>> -jake
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, 27 Jan 2017, Cory Albert wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Do you have any friends who have the free time?
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jan 27, 2017 1:38 AM, "Jake" <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> no not yet, still need a db9 adaptor and a windows computer and some
>>>>> free
>>>>>
>>>>>> time...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 26 Jan 2017, Cory Albert wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Did you get it running?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jan 19, 2017 11:25 AM, "Jake" <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ok got it, thanks!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 19 Jan 2017, Cory Albert wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No, you can't have my adapter.  I have the software.  I can give you
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> download link.  A straight through female to female should work for
>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> you have now.  or this:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/122202725149?vectorid=229466&lg
>>>>>>>>> eo=1&item=122202725149&rmvSB=true
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 8:18 PM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> i have a serial to USB, but the connector on the printer is the
>>>>>>>>> same as
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> connector on the serial to USB, so they don't plug into one
>>>>>>>>>> another.
>>>>>>>>>> Do
>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>> have the adaptor cable you were using?  or know the pinout?  does
>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>> need a
>>>>>>>>>> null-modem adaptor or is it straight-across?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> do you have the specialized software?  or know what it's called?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 18 Jan 2017, Cory Albert wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I was using a serial to USB.  You can get them for $10 online.  You
>>>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> specialized software to run it as well
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 12:42 AM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ok great!  thanks for the donation!  I was a little thrown off by
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> DB9M
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> connector on the printer, since DCE usually has a DB9F (female)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> do you have the serial cord you were using with it?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 17 Jan 2017, Cory Albert wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I would also like to get you set up to use it.  Let schedule a
>>>>>>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> that could happen
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 7:46 PM, Cory Albert <pcalbert at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I dropped off the cutter and some of the vinyl.  I have a bunch
>>>>>>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> supplies to follow.  Twice as much vinyl, extra supplies, car
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> magnets.  I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also have an old pro Korg reverb effect module (rack mount)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> old
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MIDI
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> controller that I would like to donate as well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 7:19 PM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i'll be there soon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -jake
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (415)533-3699
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 17 Jan 2017, Cory Albert wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am here with some stuff.  Gonna bring it in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 16, 2017 1:11 PM, "Jake" <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yes ok
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 16 Jan 2017, Cory Albert wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can bring the goods tomorrow evening if that works good for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 20, 2016 5:00 PM, "Cory Albert" <pcalbert at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am not gonna make it tonight.  Maybe next week.  You
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> windows
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PC that can be used to connect to the cutter.  Windows 7 or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> XP.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can get you setup.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 10:44 PM, Jake <jake at spaz.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we'll take it all and I look forward to meeting Cory if he
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> makes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hardware
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hacking Tuesday at 7PM!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -jake
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 19 Dec 2016, Effie wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey friends,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hope the question of which gear donations you want from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cory,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> got
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> definitively answered here?  Seems to have literally got
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> swept
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eWaste conversation!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> effie
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 3:30 PM, <hol at gaskill.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Deed is done thanks to help from Ed and Morgan.  Left
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> speakers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chairs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in place as not really e-waste, also sorted some nice
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> large
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> flat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sheet
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> metal pieces over to the shop area.  Some great
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perforated/vented
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ~20Ga
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sheet from that TV that's been taking up space.  Still
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> alot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> desks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> piled
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up on CCL border, and the robot area could use some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cleanup
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and/or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mounting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things to the wall tonight but space is looking great!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-12-13 11:58, Morgan Allen wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just finished lunch, be there in a couple minutes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 11:54 AM, <hol at gaskill.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm here and CRV 1/2way loaded up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-12-12 15:09, hol at gaskill.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ed there is definitely more than will fit.  Maybe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> convoy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> both loaded up?  I think if we can get one extra
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> loader
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> addition
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Morgan, I think Ed and I can handle all the unloading.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-12-12 13:40, Ed Biow wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey 'rades,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If it looks like more than can comfortably fit in a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CRV
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> give
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> holler
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and I can materialize at about noon with my big-ass
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> F150.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Special Ed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/12/2016 01:14 PM, Morgan Allen wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can be there to help load but won't likely be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> able to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unload.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 11:23 AM, <hol at gaskill.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:hol at gaskill.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     I can do an Ewaste run tomorrow around noon -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> help
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     load/unload?  Thikning 2-3 people to help load
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     ride shotgun and unload at facility.  It's a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CRV
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> huge
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     amount but should at least clear the walkway.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Jake what is the unloading environment like,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> next to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     a pile and toss things or how does it work?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     On 2016-12-11 20:29, Jake wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         the e-waste run is ready when you are,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> look at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stuff
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         next to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         fridge, it's begging for it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         If you know when it's happening i can try
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> show
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> help
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         load the truck or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         whatever.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         -jake
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         On Sun, 11 Dec 2016, Morgan Allen wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             I second the yes yes yes. Can help with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e-waste
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> run,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             On Sun, Dec 11, 2016 at 6:34 PM, Jake <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jake at spaz.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             <mailto:jake at spaz.org>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 not so fast, Robb says yes to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 I think we need to do an e-waste
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> run
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 even have a place to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 put a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 vinyl cutter, as well as roll the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> giant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> printer/copier
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 mystery thing out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 room and get it out of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> building.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 -jake
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 On Sun, 11 Dec 2016, Cory Albert
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 Hmm, I'll take that as a yes.  I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bring
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stuff
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 over next week
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     sometime.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     On Sun, Dec 11, 2016 at 5:29
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PM,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> robb
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     <sf99er at gmail.com <mailto:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sf99er at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     yes, yes, yes, yes, yes!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         On Sun, Dec 11, 2016 at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4:14
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PM,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jake
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         <jake at spaz.org <mailto:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jake at spaz.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         attention sudoroom:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             do we want to accept a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> donation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vinyl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             cutter which comes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             bunch of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             rolls of different
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> colors
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vinyl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> material?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             I know noisebridge has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             have a lot more space
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             do.  I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             understand the rolls of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vinyl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> take
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> most
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             of the space.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             he says the machine
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> works
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uses
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             serial interface, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             windows
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             software.  I think we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> easily
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> set
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             computer to dedicate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             wouldn't be a barrier
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> someone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wanted
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             to use it without going
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             through a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             software oddysey first.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             i'm guessing it looks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://productrealization.sta
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nford.edu/content/05-resources
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://productrealization.st
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anford.edu/content/05-resources>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /02-processes/10-vinyl-cutting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /header-images/vinyl-cutter-medium.jpg
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             On Fri, 9 Dec 2016,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cory
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Albert
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             Jake:  do you know of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> active in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             printed artist's spaces
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 Cory could donate a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> big
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> roll
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vinyl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 and vinyl cutters
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sign
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 making?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ______________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> g
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             <mailto:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo-discuss at lists.sud
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oroom.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     Cory Albert
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     415-670-0267 <tel:415-670-0267
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         https://sudoroom.org/lists/lis
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tinfo/sudo-discuss
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         <https://sudoroom.org/lists/li
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stinfo/sudo-discuss>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Version: OpenPGP.js v.1.20121007
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Comment: http://openpgpjs.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yVtOzkItcS0UqyW1Mg==
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =V/Ia
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo-discuss mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://sudoroom.org/lists/listinfo/sudo-discuss
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If God is watching us the least we can do is be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entertaining.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately it is also probably the most we can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Edmund Joseph Biow
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 328 Haddon Road
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oakland, California 94606
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (510) 763-0591 (try first, messages checked in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> morning,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dumb
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> phone,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> caller ID, leave number)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (415) 623-6473 (cell)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> EMAIL:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> biow at sonic.net - biow at riseup.net - biow at sonic.net -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ejbiow at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ebiow at yasashi.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IM: ejbiow at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To subscribe or unsubscribe to the lists I moderate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> send
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> email
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> following:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subscribe:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> occupyoakland-subscribe at lists.riseup.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> occupyoaklanddiscuss-subscribe at lists.riseup.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oaklandprivacyworkinggroup-sub
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scribe at lists.riseup.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oaklandpublicbank-subscribe at lists.riseup.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> occupyoaklandkitchen-subscribe at lists.riseup.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oaklandlivablewagediscussion-s
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ubscribe at lists.riseup.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unsubscribe:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> occupyoakland-unsubscribe at lists.riseup.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> occupyoaklanddiscuss-unsubscribe at lists.riseup.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oaklandprivacyworkinggroup-uns
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ubscribe at lists.riseup.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oaklandpublicbank-unsubscribe at lists.riseup.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> occupyoaklandkitchen-unsubscribe at lists.riseup.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oaklandlivablewagediscussion-u
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nsubscribe at lists.riseup.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    (\__/)  .~    ~. ))
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    /O O  ./      .'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   {O__,   \    {
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     / .  . )    \
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     |-| '-' \    } ))      Warning squirrels:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    .(   _(   )_.'         Einstein is on the prowl.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   '---.~_ _ _&
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can use a PGP key to encrypt and secure our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> messages.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> start
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it, you'll need to install an OpenPGP software on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> computer.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Below
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you'll find a list of possible solutions for your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> operating
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> system:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows: Kleopatra (http://gpg4win.de/download.ht
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ml)Linux
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GnuPG
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (https://www.gnupg.org/downloa
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> d/supported_systems.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> )
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OS X: GPG Keychain (https://gpgtools.org/#gpgsuite)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Linux: GnuPG (https://www.gnupg.org/related
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _software/frontends.html)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Android: OpenKeychain
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (https://play.google.com/store
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /apps/details?id=org.sufficien
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tlysecure.keychain)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iOS: iPGMail (https://itunes.apple.com/us/a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pp/ipgmail/id430780873?mt=8)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Once you set up PGP on your computer please import
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> public
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> key
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> into
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your local OpenPGP Key-Manager. The valid PGP keys
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> biow at cubasoldarity.net & biow at riseup.net accounts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> downloaded
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here: http://ebiow.yasashi.net/pgp/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> An "easy" way to set up PGP on your computer is to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> download
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> free
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> &
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> open sources Thunderbird email client (available on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Linux,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windohs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> &
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> O$X) & install the EnigMail Add-On.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/all.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.enigmail.net/download/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.enigmail.net/docum
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entation/quickstart-ch1.php
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Looking forward to exchange snooping-free messages
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> &
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> making
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NSA spend mondo bucks to discover the secret of my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bube's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kartofel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kugel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recipe.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo-discuss mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://sudoroom.org/lists/listinfo/sudo-discuss
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo-discuss mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://sudoroom.org/lists/listinfo/sudo-discuss
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Version: OpenPGP.js v.1.20121007
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Comment: http://openpgpjs.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uAeiBY+VaJIQFLzoFlt8A0hBlLNPFN
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> j3uyX3ufXDsIB/3NsKaTyyu+SO0+Hv
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cn2DwmlfSXcPhoarx6Turizn/WwgtT
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oF/zkbF+7ddFhmyfiFh4Ej9//tsfwP
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LEqjhzDDjq9v7GNWb/5xB2xgTaucJ7
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /ljuS8nPlZqwCI8NlTgSqC8nyVLyjS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yVtOzkItcS0UqyW1Mg==
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =V/Ia
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cory Albert
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 415-670-0267 <(415)%20670-0267>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cory Albert
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 415-670-0267 <(415)%20670-0267>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cory Albert
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 415-670-0267
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cory Albert
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 415-670-0267
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cory Albert
>>>>>>>>> 415-670-0267
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Cory Albert
>> 415-670-0267 <(415)%20670-0267>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> sudo-discuss mailing list
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>> https://sudoroom.org/lists/listinfo/sudo-discuss
>>
>>
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