[sudo-discuss] sudoroom vinyl cutter setup and training
Jenny Ryan
tunabananas at gmail.com
Sun Mar 26 20:27:37 PDT 2017
I'd like to learn, too! I can help host Tuesday ~6pm if some other folks
can be there to help coord? Cory does that work for you?
Jenny
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On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 4:38 PM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
> bump! is anyone available to meet with Cory so that we can learn how to
> use
> the vinyl cutter he donated?
>
> -jake
>
>
> On Fri, 3 Feb 2017, Cory Albert wrote:
>
> I am usually free Friday nights, I am usually in classes Monday thru
>> Thursday nights. Daytime during the week or weekend is usually more
>> flexible for me except when I have big work projects going on.
>>
>> On Jan 31, 2017 10:41 AM, <hol at gaskill.com> wrote:
>>
>> Could we do this tonight at hardware hack night? I moved the large format
>>> scanner from basement (which someone put in the e-waste pile?) that would
>>> be awesome for digitizing hand-drawn designs to convert to vector and run
>>> off on the vinyl cutter. Should be a dual rs232 card somewhere there
>>> which
>>> I am happy to install physically and driverally in a spare PC. Might
>>> even
>>> make sense to set this up in the basement next to other printy equipment.
>>> Thanks again for the donation!
>>>
>>> On 2017-01-27 11:59, Cory Albert wrote:
>>>
>>> I think I got the gender bender covered. I have three and one is bound
>>> to
>>> be straight through
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 11:51 AM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> here i'm replying to you and the sudoroom discuss list.
>>>>
>>>> does anyone at sudoroom want to host Cory to set up and demonstrate use
>>>> of the
>>>> vinyl cutter he donated? we will need a computer running windows
>>>> (perhaps the
>>>> laser cutter laptop?) and a DB9 gender bender adaptor for our rs232 to
>>>> usb
>>>> adaptor to fit.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, 27 Jan 2017, Cory Albert wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Fridays or during the day weekdays are usually best for me. Can you add
>>>>
>>>>> the sudoroom to this thread? Krystof is also interested in learning to
>>>>> use
>>>>> it as well but I don't think I have his email
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jan 27, 2017 2:47 AM, "Jake" <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> if you email the sudoroom discuss list about it, there will surely be
>>>>> people
>>>>> who want to meet with you to learn how to use the vinyl cutter
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm at sudoroom every tuesday night,but when you came by i didn't
>>>>> arrive
>>>>> until
>>>>> right after you left.
>>>>>
>>>>> -jake
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 27 Jan 2017, Cory Albert wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you have any friends who have the free time?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jan 27, 2017 1:38 AM, "Jake" <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> no not yet, still need a db9 adaptor and a windows computer and some
>>>>>> free
>>>>>>
>>>>>> time...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, 26 Jan 2017, Cory Albert wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Did you get it running?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jan 19, 2017 11:25 AM, "Jake" <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ok got it, thanks!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 19 Jan 2017, Cory Albert wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No, you can't have my adapter. I have the software. I can give
>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> download link. A straight through female to female should work for
>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> you have now. or this:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/122202725149?vectorid=229466&lg
>>>>>>>>>> eo=1&item=122202725149&rmvSB=true
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 8:18 PM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> i have a serial to USB, but the connector on the printer is the
>>>>>>>>>> same as
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> connector on the serial to USB, so they don't plug into one
>>>>>>>>>>> another.
>>>>>>>>>>> Do
>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>> have the adaptor cable you were using? or know the pinout? does
>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>> need a
>>>>>>>>>>> null-modem adaptor or is it straight-across?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> do you have the specialized software? or know what it's called?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 18 Jan 2017, Cory Albert wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I was using a serial to USB. You can get them for $10 online.
>>>>>>>>>>> You
>>>>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> specialized software to run it as well
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 12:42 AM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ok great! thanks for the donation! I was a little thrown off
>>>>>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> DB9M
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> connector on the printer, since DCE usually has a DB9F (female)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> do you have the serial cord you were using with it?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 17 Jan 2017, Cory Albert wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would also like to get you set up to use it. Let schedule a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that could happen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 7:46 PM, Cory Albert <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> pcalbert at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I dropped off the cutter and some of the vinyl. I have a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bunch
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> supplies to follow. Twice as much vinyl, extra supplies, car
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> magnets. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also have an old pro Korg reverb effect module (rack mount)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> old
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MIDI
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> controller that I would like to donate as well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 7:19 PM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i'll be there soon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -jake
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (415)533-3699
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 17 Jan 2017, Cory Albert wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am here with some stuff. Gonna bring it in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 16, 2017 1:11 PM, "Jake" <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yes ok
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 16 Jan 2017, Cory Albert wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can bring the goods tomorrow evening if that works good
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 20, 2016 5:00 PM, "Cory Albert" <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pcalbert at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am not gonna make it tonight. Maybe next week. You
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> windows
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PC that can be used to connect to the cutter. Windows 7
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> XP.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can get you setup.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 10:44 PM, Jake <jake at spaz.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we'll take it all and I look forward to meeting Cory if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> he
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> makes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hardware
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hacking Tuesday at 7PM!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -jake
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 19 Dec 2016, Effie wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey friends,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hope the question of which gear donations you want from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cory,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> got
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> definitively answered here? Seems to have literally
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> got
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> swept
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eWaste conversation!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> effie
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 3:30 PM, <hol at gaskill.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Deed is done thanks to help from Ed and Morgan. Left
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> speakers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chairs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in place as not really e-waste, also sorted some nice
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> large
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> flat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sheet
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> metal pieces over to the shop area. Some great
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perforated/vented
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ~20Ga
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sheet from that TV that's been taking up space.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Still
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> alot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> desks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> piled
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up on CCL border, and the robot area could use some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cleanup
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and/or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mounting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things to the wall tonight but space is looking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> great!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-12-13 11:58, Morgan Allen wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just finished lunch, be there in a couple minutes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 11:54 AM, <hol at gaskill.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm here and CRV 1/2way loaded up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-12-12 15:09, hol at gaskill.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ed there is definitely more than will fit. Maybe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> convoy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> both loaded up? I think if we can get one extra
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> loader
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> addition
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Morgan, I think Ed and I can handle all the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unloading.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-12-12 13:40, Ed Biow wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey 'rades,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If it looks like more than can comfortably fit in a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CRV
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> give
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> holler
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and I can materialize at about noon with my big-ass
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> F150.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Special Ed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/12/2016 01:14 PM, Morgan Allen wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can be there to help load but won't likely be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> able to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unload.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 11:23 AM, <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hol at gaskill.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:hol at gaskill.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can do an Ewaste run tomorrow around noon -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> help
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> load/unload? Thikning 2-3 people to help
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> load
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ride shotgun and unload at facility. It's a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CRV
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> huge
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> amount but should at least clear the walkway.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jake what is the unloading environment like,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> next to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a pile and toss things or how does it work?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-12-11 20:29, Jake wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the e-waste run is ready when you are,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> look at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stuff
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> next to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fridge, it's begging for it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you know when it's happening i can try
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> show
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> help
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> load the truck or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whatever.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -jake
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 11 Dec 2016, Morgan Allen wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I second the yes yes yes. Can help
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e-waste
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> run,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 11, 2016 at 6:34 PM,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jake <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jake at spaz.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:jake at spaz.org>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not so fast, Robb says yes to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think we need to do an e-waste
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> run
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even have a place to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> put a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vinyl cutter, as well as roll the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> giant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> printer/copier
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mystery thing out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> room and get it out of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> building.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -jake
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 11 Dec 2016, Cory Albert
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hmm, I'll take that as a yes. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bring
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stuff
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over next week
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sometime.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 11, 2016 at 5:29
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PM,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> robb
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <sf99er at gmail.com <mailto:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sf99er at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yes, yes, yes, yes, yes!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 11, 2016 at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4:14
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PM,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jake
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jake at spaz.org <mailto:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jake at spaz.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attention sudoroom:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do we want to accept
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> donation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vinyl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cutter which comes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bunch of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rolls of different
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> colors
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vinyl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> material?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I know noisebridge
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a lot more space
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> understand the rolls
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vinyl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> take
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> most
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the space.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> he says the machine
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> works
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uses
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> serial interface, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> windows
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> software. I think we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> easily
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> set
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> computer to dedicate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wouldn't be a barrier
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> someone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wanted
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to use it without
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> going
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> through a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> software oddysey
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i'm guessing it looks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://productrealization.sta
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nford.edu/content/05-resources
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://productrealization.st
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anford.edu/content/05-resources>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /02-processes/10-vinyl-cutting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /header-images/vinyl-cutter-medium.jpg
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 9 Dec 2016,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cory
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Albert
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jake: do you know of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> active in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> printed artist's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spaces
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cory could
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> donate a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> big
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> roll
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vinyl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and vinyl cutters
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sign
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> making?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ______________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo-discuss mailing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> g
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo-discuss at lists.sud
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oroom.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://sudoroom.org/lists/lis
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tinfo/sudo-discuss
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://sudoroom.org/lists/li
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stinfo/sudo-discuss>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cory Albert
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 415-670-0267 <tel:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 415-670-0267
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ______________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _________________
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> D7hwf+K8LN/kfgi8GTRLiTcuM+hSbm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uAeiBY+VaJIQFLzoFlt8A0hBlLNPFN
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cn2DwmlfSXcPhoarx6Turizn/WwgtT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> N3tqrMWxxiCKWydLH5xYuz+23BLMdc
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oF/zkbF+7ddFhmyfiFh4Ej9//tsfwP
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> j2cACU3uLTrcwCo7IxUtkrqMF/fhlm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LEqjhzDDjq9v7GNWb/5xB2xgTaucJ7
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /ljuS8nPlZqwCI8NlTgSqC8nyVLyjS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yVtOzkItcS0UqyW1Mg==
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =V/Ia
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ______________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo-discuss mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://sudoroom.org/lists/lis
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tinfo/sudo-discuss
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sudoroom.org/lists/li
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stinfo/sudo-discuss>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Version: OpenPGP.js v.1.20121007
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Comment: http://openpgpjs.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> xsBNBFG3btUBB/9+/WJNOSIuc/praK
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PaPOweqXV5s7PGRD+HAnNWF/19YAY3
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AFtfeoelhhY4sMJoobTaJzcZojznZ1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kl/7UuuYCnbJO3Z9kaSMVrVxEZMSLe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> YmW8Hc4ZsTnl9f05DQFy8ABpAvMLmX
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JQXh63BbfzjFqNbSWQfLhrubSM2Elq
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> xmN6EsmRyAuEeYlSnal+Di2MlViohp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CbbagE2D6AZTUECIamTib6+DuLG4XO
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> b4GGKHR9TXu2qS1VH6hqcvdEz2MDE5
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OqZzAnBgcF2dvcOdTk9gAOoR1T+qKj
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JQKTg26+csU4P2w0rEWsUsJombABEB
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AAHNJU1vcmdhbiBBbGxlbiA8bW9yZ2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FucmFsbGVuQGdtYWlsLmNvbT7CwFwE
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> EAECABAFAlG3btwJEG9pFLKaVEfeAA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> D7hwf+K8LN/kfgi8GTRLiTcuM+hSbm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uAeiBY+VaJIQFLzoFlt8A0hBlLNPFN
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NmUDxdPrMErdHgZ7HtJW/6RANuBTti
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5hr3EBguH1GQyK7BbUqJGvaEX4UNRe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> j3uyX3ufXDsIB/3NsKaTyyu+SO0+Hv
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cn2DwmlfSXcPhoarx6Turizn/WwgtT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> N3tqrMWxxiCKWydLH5xYuz+23BLMdc
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oF/zkbF+7ddFhmyfiFh4Ej9//tsfwP
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> j2cACU3uLTrcwCo7IxUtkrqMF/fhlm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LEqjhzDDjq9v7GNWb/5xB2xgTaucJ7
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /ljuS8nPlZqwCI8NlTgSqC8nyVLyjS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yVtOzkItcS0UqyW1Mg==
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =V/Ia
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo-discuss mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://sudoroom.org/lists/listinfo/sudo-discuss
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If God is watching us the least we can do is be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entertaining.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately it is also probably the most we can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Edmund Joseph Biow
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 328 Haddon Road
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oakland, California 94606
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (510) 763-0591 (try first, messages checked in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> morning,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dumb
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> phone,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> caller ID, leave number)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (415) 623-6473 (cell)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> EMAIL:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> biow at sonic.net - biow at riseup.net - biow at sonic.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ejbiow at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ebiow at yasashi.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IM: ejbiow at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To subscribe or unsubscribe to the lists I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moderate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> send
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> email
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> following:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subscribe:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> occupyoakland-subscribe at lists.riseup.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> occupyoaklanddiscuss-subscribe at lists.riseup.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oaklandprivacyworkinggroup-sub
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scribe at lists.riseup.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oaklandpublicbank-subscribe at lists.riseup.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> occupyoaklandkitchen-subscribe at lists.riseup.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oaklandlivablewagediscussion-s
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ubscribe at lists.riseup.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unsubscribe:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> occupyoakland-unsubscribe at lists.riseup.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> occupyoaklanddiscuss-unsubscribe at lists.riseup.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oaklandprivacyworkinggroup-uns
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ubscribe at lists.riseup.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oaklandpublicbank-unsubscribe at lists.riseup.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> occupyoaklandkitchen-unsubscribe at lists.riseup.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oaklandlivablewagediscussion-u
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nsubscribe at lists.riseup.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (\__/) .~ ~. ))
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /O O ./ .'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> {O__, \ {
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> / . . ) \
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |-| '-' \ } )) Warning squirrels:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .( _( )_.' Einstein is on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prowl.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> '---.~_ _ _&
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can use a PGP key to encrypt and secure our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> messages.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> start
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it, you'll need to install an OpenPGP software on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> computer.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Below
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you'll find a list of possible solutions for your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> operating
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> system:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows: Kleopatra (http://gpg4win.de/download.ht
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ml)Linux
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GnuPG
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (https://www.gnupg.org/downloa
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> d/supported_systems.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> )
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OS X: GPG Keychain (https://gpgtools.org/#gpgsuit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Linux: GnuPG (https://www.gnupg.org/related
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _software/frontends.html)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Android: OpenKeychain
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (https://play.google.com/store
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /apps/details?id=org.sufficien
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tlysecure.keychain)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iOS: iPGMail (https://itunes.apple.com/us/a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pp/ipgmail/id430780873?mt=8)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Once you set up PGP on your computer please import
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> public
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> key
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> into
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your local OpenPGP Key-Manager. The valid PGP keys
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> biow at cubasoldarity.net & biow at riseup.net accounts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> downloaded
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here: http://ebiow.yasashi.net/pgp/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> An "easy" way to set up PGP on your computer is to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> download
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> free
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> &
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> open sources Thunderbird email client (available
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Linux,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windohs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> &
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> O$X) & install the EnigMail Add-On.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thunderbird/all.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.enigmail.net/download/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.enigmail.net/docum
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entation/quickstart-ch1.php
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Looking forward to exchange snooping-free messages
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> &
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> making
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NSA spend mondo bucks to discover the secret of my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bube's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kartofel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kugel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recipe.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo-discuss mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://sudoroom.org/lists/listinfo/sudo-discuss
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo-discuss mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://sudoroom.org/lists/listinfo/sudo-discuss
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Version: OpenPGP.js v.1.20121007
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Comment: http://openpgpjs.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> xsBNBFG3btUBB/9+/WJNOSIuc/praK
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PaPOweqXV5s7PGRD+HAnNWF/19YAY3
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AFtfeoelhhY4sMJoobTaJzcZojznZ1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kl/7UuuYCnbJO3Z9kaSMVrVxEZMSLe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> YmW8Hc4ZsTnl9f05DQFy8ABpAvMLmX
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JQXh63BbfzjFqNbSWQfLhrubSM2Elq
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> xmN6EsmRyAuEeYlSnal+Di2MlViohp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CbbagE2D6AZTUECIamTib6+DuLG4XO
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JQKTg26+csU4P2w0rEWsUsJombABEB
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AAHNJU1vcmdhbiBBbGxlbiA8bW9yZ2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FucmFsbGVuQGdtYWlsLmNvbT7CwFwE
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> EAECABAFAlG3btwJEG9pFLKaVEfeAA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> D7hwf+K8LN/kfgi8GTRLiTcuM+hSbm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uAeiBY+VaJIQFLzoFlt8A0hBlLNPFN
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NmUDxdPrMErdHgZ7HtJW/6RANuBTti
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5hr3EBguH1GQyK7BbUqJGvaEX4UNRe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> j3uyX3ufXDsIB/3NsKaTyyu+SO0+Hv
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cn2DwmlfSXcPhoarx6Turizn/WwgtT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> N3tqrMWxxiCKWydLH5xYuz+23BLMdc
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oF/zkbF+7ddFhmyfiFh4Ej9//tsfwP
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> j2cACU3uLTrcwCo7IxUtkrqMF/fhlm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LEqjhzDDjq9v7GNWb/5xB2xgTaucJ7
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /ljuS8nPlZqwCI8NlTgSqC8nyVLyjS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yVtOzkItcS0UqyW1Mg==
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =V/Ia
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cory Albert
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 415-670-0267 <(415)%20670-0267>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cory Albert
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 415-670-0267 <(415)%20670-0267>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cory Albert
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 415-670-0267
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cory Albert
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 415-670-0267
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cory Albert
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 415-670-0267
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Cory Albert
>>> 415-670-0267 <(415)%20670-0267>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> sudo-discuss mailing list
>>> sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org
>>> https://sudoroom.org/lists/listinfo/sudo-discuss
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
> sudo-discuss mailing list
> sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org
> https://sudoroom.org/lists/listinfo/sudo-discuss
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