[sudo-discuss] sudoroom vinyl cutter setup and training
Cory Albert
pcalbert at gmail.com
Mon Mar 27 12:49:02 PDT 2017
You need a very flat surface to work with. It needs to be about 3 ft wide,
preferably at the end of the table rather than middle.
On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 12:07 PM, Cory Albert <pcalbert at gmail.com> wrote:
> We will need some clear table space
>
> On Mar 27, 2017 9:02 AM, <hol at gaskill.com> wrote:
>
>> I'd like to learn Tues and can help make sure the cutter is connected to
>> a computer beforehand. can you summarize any prep work we should do before
>> you arrive Tuesday Cory? Thanks again for the donation and being willing
>> to show us the ropes.
>>
>> On 2017-03-27 02:55, Cory Albert wrote:
>>
>> Tuesday at 10pm does
>>
>> On Mar 26, 2017 8:28 PM, "Jenny Ryan" <tunabananas at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I'd like to learn, too! I can help host Tuesday ~6pm if some other folks
>>> can be there to help coord? Cory does that work for you?
>>>
>>> Jenny
>>>
>>> Help open a people-powered common space in Oakland, California!
>>> https://omnicommons.org/donate
>>>
>>> `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
>>> "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories."
>>> -Laurie Anderson
>>>
>>> "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining
>>> it."
>>> -Hannah Arendt
>>>
>>> "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."
>>> -Stéphane Mallarmé
>>> ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
>>>
>>> On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 4:38 PM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> bump! is anyone available to meet with Cory so that we can learn how
>>>> to use
>>>> the vinyl cutter he donated?
>>>>
>>>> -jake
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, 3 Feb 2017, Cory Albert wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I am usually free Friday nights, I am usually in classes Monday thru
>>>>> Thursday nights. Daytime during the week or weekend is usually more
>>>>> flexible for me except when I have big work projects going on.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jan 31, 2017 10:41 AM, <hol at gaskill.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Could we do this tonight at hardware hack night? I moved the large
>>>>>> format
>>>>>> scanner from basement (which someone put in the e-waste pile?) that
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> be awesome for digitizing hand-drawn designs to convert to vector and
>>>>>> run
>>>>>> off on the vinyl cutter. Should be a dual rs232 card somewhere there
>>>>>> which
>>>>>> I am happy to install physically and driverally in a spare PC. Might
>>>>>> even
>>>>>> make sense to set this up in the basement next to other printy
>>>>>> equipment.
>>>>>> Thanks again for the donation!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2017-01-27 11:59, Cory Albert wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think I got the gender bender covered. I have three and one is
>>>>>> bound to
>>>>>> be straight through
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 11:51 AM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> here i'm replying to you and the sudoroom discuss list.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> does anyone at sudoroom want to host Cory to set up and demonstrate
>>>>>>> use
>>>>>>> of the
>>>>>>> vinyl cutter he donated? we will need a computer running windows
>>>>>>> (perhaps the
>>>>>>> laser cutter laptop?) and a DB9 gender bender adaptor for our rs232
>>>>>>> to usb
>>>>>>> adaptor to fit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, 27 Jan 2017, Cory Albert wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Fridays or during the day weekdays are usually best for me. Can you
>>>>>>> add
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the sudoroom to this thread? Krystof is also interested in
>>>>>>>> learning to
>>>>>>>> use
>>>>>>>> it as well but I don't think I have his email
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Jan 27, 2017 2:47 AM, "Jake" <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> if you email the sudoroom discuss list about it, there will surely
>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>> who want to meet with you to learn how to use the vinyl cutter
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm at sudoroom every tuesday night,but when you came by i didn't
>>>>>>>> arrive
>>>>>>>> until
>>>>>>>> right after you left.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -jake
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 27 Jan 2017, Cory Albert wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Do you have any friends who have the free time?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Jan 27, 2017 1:38 AM, "Jake" <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> no not yet, still need a db9 adaptor and a windows computer and
>>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>> free
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> time...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 26 Jan 2017, Cory Albert wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Did you get it running?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 19, 2017 11:25 AM, "Jake" <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ok got it, thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 19 Jan 2017, Cory Albert wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> No, you can't have my adapter. I have the software. I can
>>>>>>>>>>>> give you
>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> download link. A straight through female to female should work
>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> you have now. or this:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/122202725149?vectorid=229466&lg
>>>>>>>>>>>>> eo=1&item=122202725149&rmvSB=true
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 8:18 PM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> i have a serial to USB, but the connector on the printer is the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> same as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> connector on the serial to USB, so they don't plug into one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have the adaptor cable you were using? or know the pinout?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> null-modem adaptor or is it straight-across?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do you have the specialized software? or know what it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> called?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 18 Jan 2017, Cory Albert wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was using a serial to USB. You can get them for $10
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> online. You
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> specialized software to run it as well
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 12:42 AM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ok great! thanks for the donation! I was a little thrown
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> off by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DB9M
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> connector on the printer, since DCE usually has a DB9F
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (female)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do you have the serial cord you were using with it?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 17 Jan 2017, Cory Albert wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would also like to get you set up to use it. Let
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> schedule a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that could happen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 7:46 PM, Cory Albert <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pcalbert at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I dropped off the cutter and some of the vinyl. I have a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bunch
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> supplies to follow. Twice as much vinyl, extra supplies,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> car
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> magnets. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also have an old pro Korg reverb effect module (rack mount)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> old
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MIDI
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> controller that I would like to donate as well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 7:19 PM, Jake <jake at spaz.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i'll be there soon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -jake
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (415)533-3699
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 17 Jan 2017, Cory Albert wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am here with some stuff. Gonna bring it in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 16, 2017 1:11 PM, "Jake" <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yes ok
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 16 Jan 2017, Cory Albert wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can bring the goods tomorrow evening if that works
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 20, 2016 5:00 PM, "Cory Albert" <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pcalbert at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am not gonna make it tonight. Maybe next week. You
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> windows
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PC that can be used to connect to the cutter.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows 7 or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> XP.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can get you setup.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 10:44 PM, Jake <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jake at spaz.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we'll take it all and I look forward to meeting Cory
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if he
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> makes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hardware
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hacking Tuesday at 7PM!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -jake
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 19 Dec 2016, Effie wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey friends,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hope the question of which gear donations you want
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cory,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> got
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> definitively answered here? Seems to have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> literally got
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> swept
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eWaste conversation!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> effie
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 3:30 PM, <hol at gaskill.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Deed is done thanks to help from Ed and Morgan.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Left
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> speakers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chairs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in place as not really e-waste, also sorted some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nice
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> large
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> flat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sheet
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> metal pieces over to the shop area. Some great
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perforated/vented
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ~20Ga
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sheet from that TV that's been taking up space.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Still
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> alot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> desks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> piled
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up on CCL border, and the robot area could use
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cleanup
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and/or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mounting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things to the wall tonight but space is looking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> great!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-12-13 11:58, Morgan Allen wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just finished lunch, be there in a couple minutes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 11:54 AM, <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hol at gaskill.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm here and CRV 1/2way loaded up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-12-12 15:09, hol at gaskill.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ed there is definitely more than will fit. Maybe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> convoy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> both loaded up? I think if we can get one extra
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> loader
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> addition
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Morgan, I think Ed and I can handle all the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unloading.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-12-12 13:40, Ed Biow wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey 'rades,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If it looks like more than can comfortably fit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CRV
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> give
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> holler
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and I can materialize at about noon with my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> big-ass
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> F150.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Special Ed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/12/2016 01:14 PM, Morgan Allen wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can be there to help load but won't likely be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> able to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unload.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 11:23 AM, <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hol at gaskill.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:hol at gaskill.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can do an Ewaste run tomorrow around
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> noon -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> help
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> load/unload? Thikning 2-3 people to help
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> load
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ride shotgun and unload at facility.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CRV
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> huge
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> amount but should at least clear the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> walkway.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jake what is the unloading environment
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> next to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a pile and toss things or how does it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-12-11 20:29, Jake wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the e-waste run is ready when you are,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> look at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stuff
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> next to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fridge, it's begging for it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you know when it's happening i can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> try
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> show
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> help
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> load the truck or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whatever.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -jake
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 11 Dec 2016, Morgan Allen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I second the yes yes yes. Can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> help with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e-waste
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> run,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 11, 2016 at 6:34 PM,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jake <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jake at spaz.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:jake at spaz.org>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not so fast, Robb says yes to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think we need to do an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e-waste
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> run
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even have a place to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> put a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vinyl cutter, as well as roll
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> giant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> printer/copier
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mystery thing out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> room and get it out of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> building.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -jake
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 11 Dec 2016, Cory
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Albert
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hmm, I'll take that as a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yes. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bring
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stuff
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over next week
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sometime.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 11, 2016 at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5:29
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PM,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> robb
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <sf99er at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sf99er at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yes, yes, yes, yes, yes!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 11, 2016
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4:14
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PM,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jake
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jake at spaz.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jake at spaz.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attention sudoroom:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do we want to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accept a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> donation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vinyl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cutter which comes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bunch of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rolls of different
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> colors
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vinyl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> material?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I know
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> noisebridge has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a lot more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> space
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> understand the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rolls of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vinyl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> take
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> most
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the space.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> he says the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> machine
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> works
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uses
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> serial interface,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> windows
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> software. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> easily
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> set
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> computer to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dedicate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wouldn't be a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> barrier
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> someone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wanted
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to use it without
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> going
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> through a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> software oddysey
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i'm guessing it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> looks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://productrealization.sta
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nford.edu/content/05-resources
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://productrealization.st
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anford.edu/content/05-resources>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /02-processes/10-vinyl-cutting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /header-images/vinyl-cutter-medium.jpg
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 9 Dec
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2016,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cory
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Albert
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jake: do you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> active in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> printed artist's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spaces
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cory could
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> donate a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> big
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> roll
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vinyl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and vinyl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cutters
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sign
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> making?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ______________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo-discuss
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mailing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> g
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo-discuss at lists.sud
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oroom.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://sudoroom.org/lists/lis
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tinfo/sudo-discuss
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://sudoroom.org/lists/li
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stinfo/sudo-discuss>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cory Albert
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 415-670-0267 <tel:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 415-670-0267
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ______________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo-discuss mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo-discuss at lists.sud
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oroom.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://sudoroom.org/lists/lis
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tinfo/sudo-discuss
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://sudoroom.org/lists/li
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stinfo/sudo-discuss
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BLOCK-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Version: OpenPGP.js v.1.20121007
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Comment: http://openpgpjs.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> xsBNBFG3btUBB/9+/WJNOSIuc/praK
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PaPOweqXV5s7PGRD+HAnNWF/19YAY3
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JQKTg26+csU4P2w0rEWsUsJombABEB
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AAHNJU1vcmdhbiBBbGxlbiA8bW9yZ2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FucmFsbGVuQGdtYWlsLmNvbT7CwFwE
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> EAECABAFAlG3btwJEG9pFLKaVEfeAA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> D7hwf+K8LN/kfgi8GTRLiTcuM+hSbm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uAeiBY+VaJIQFLzoFlt8A0hBlLNPFN
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NmUDxdPrMErdHgZ7HtJW/6RANuBTti
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5hr3EBguH1GQyK7BbUqJGvaEX4UNRe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> j3uyX3ufXDsIB/3NsKaTyyu+SO0+Hv
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cn2DwmlfSXcPhoarx6Turizn/WwgtT
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /ljuS8nPlZqwCI8NlTgSqC8nyVLyjS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yVtOzkItcS0UqyW1Mg==
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =V/Ia
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ______________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo-discuss mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:sudo-discuss at lists.sud
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oroom.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://sudoroom.org/lists/lis
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tinfo/sudo-discuss
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sudoroom.org/lists/li
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stinfo/sudo-discuss>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Version: OpenPGP.js v.1.20121007
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Comment: http://openpgpjs.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> xsBNBFG3btUBB/9+/WJNOSIuc/praK
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PaPOweqXV5s7PGRD+HAnNWF/19YAY3
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AFtfeoelhhY4sMJoobTaJzcZojznZ1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kl/7UuuYCnbJO3Z9kaSMVrVxEZMSLe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> YmW8Hc4ZsTnl9f05DQFy8ABpAvMLmX
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JQXh63BbfzjFqNbSWQfLhrubSM2Elq
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> xmN6EsmRyAuEeYlSnal+Di2MlViohp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CbbagE2D6AZTUECIamTib6+DuLG4XO
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> b4GGKHR9TXu2qS1VH6hqcvdEz2MDE5
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OqZzAnBgcF2dvcOdTk9gAOoR1T+qKj
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IJtg2X0ETbxcPqEXQoXE8VrxN0MLT5
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JQKTg26+csU4P2w0rEWsUsJombABEB
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AAHNJU1vcmdhbiBBbGxlbiA8bW9yZ2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FucmFsbGVuQGdtYWlsLmNvbT7CwFwE
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> EAECABAFAlG3btwJEG9pFLKaVEfeAA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> D7hwf+K8LN/kfgi8GTRLiTcuM+hSbm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uAeiBY+VaJIQFLzoFlt8A0hBlLNPFN
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NmUDxdPrMErdHgZ7HtJW/6RANuBTti
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5hr3EBguH1GQyK7BbUqJGvaEX4UNRe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> j3uyX3ufXDsIB/3NsKaTyyu+SO0+Hv
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cn2DwmlfSXcPhoarx6Turizn/WwgtT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> N3tqrMWxxiCKWydLH5xYuz+23BLMdc
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oF/zkbF+7ddFhmyfiFh4Ej9//tsfwP
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> j2cACU3uLTrcwCo7IxUtkrqMF/fhlm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LEqjhzDDjq9v7GNWb/5xB2xgTaucJ7
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /ljuS8nPlZqwCI8NlTgSqC8nyVLyjS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yVtOzkItcS0UqyW1Mg==
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =V/Ia
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ______________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo-discuss mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://sudoroom.org/lists/lis
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tinfo/sudo-discuss
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If God is watching us the least we can do is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entertaining.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately it is also probably the most we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Edmund Joseph Biow
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 328 Haddon Road
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oakland, California 94606
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (510) 763-0591 (try first, messages checked in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> morning,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dumb
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> phone,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> caller ID, leave number)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (415) 623-6473 (cell)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> EMAIL:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> biow at sonic.net - biow at riseup.net -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> biow at sonic.net -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ejbiow at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ebiow at yasashi.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IM: ejbiow at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To subscribe or unsubscribe to the lists I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moderate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> send
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> email
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> following:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subscribe:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> occupyoakland-subscribe at lists.riseup.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> occupyoaklanddiscuss-subscribe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @lists.riseup.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oaklandprivacyworkinggroup-sub
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scribe at lists.riseup.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oaklandpublicbank-subscribe at lists.riseup.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> occupyoaklandkitchen-subscribe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @lists.riseup.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oaklandlivablewagediscussion-s
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ubscribe at lists.riseup.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unsubscribe:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> occupyoakland-unsubscribe at lists.riseup.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> occupyoaklanddiscuss-unsubscri
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be at lists.riseup.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oaklandprivacyworkinggroup-uns
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ubscribe at lists.riseup.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oaklandpublicbank-unsubscribe at lists.riseup.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> occupyoaklandkitchen-unsubscri
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be at lists.riseup.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oaklandlivablewagediscussion-u
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nsubscribe at lists.riseup.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (\__/) .~ ~. ))
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /O O ./ .'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> {O__, \ {
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> / . . ) \
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |-| '-' \ } )) Warning squirrels:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .( _( )_.' Einstein is on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prowl.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> '---.~_ _ _&
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can use a PGP key to encrypt and secure our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> messages.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> start
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it, you'll need to install an OpenPGP software
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> computer.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Below
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you'll find a list of possible solutions for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> operating
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> system:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows: Kleopatra (
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://gpg4win.de/download.ht
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ml)Linux
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GnuPG
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (https://www.gnupg.org/downloa
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> d/supported_systems.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> )
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OS X: GPG Keychain (
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://gpgtools.org/#gpgsuite)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Linux: GnuPG (https://www.gnupg.org/related
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _software/frontends.html)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Android: OpenKeychain
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (https://play.google.com/store
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /apps/details?id=org.sufficien
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tlysecure.keychain)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iOS: iPGMail (https://itunes.apple.com/us/a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pp/ipgmail/id430780873?mt=8)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Once you set up PGP on your computer please
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> import
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> public
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> key
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> into
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your local OpenPGP Key-Manager. The valid PGP
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keys
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> biow at cubasoldarity.net & biow at riseup.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accounts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> downloaded
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here: http://ebiow.yasashi.net/pgp/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> An "easy" way to set up PGP on your computer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> download
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> free
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> &
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> open sources Thunderbird email client
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (available on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Linux,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windohs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> &
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> O$X) & install the EnigMail Add-On.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thunderbird/all.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.enigmail.net/download/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.enigmail.net/docum
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entation/quickstart-ch1.php
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Looking forward to exchange snooping-free
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> messages
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> &
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> making
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NSA spend mondo bucks to discover the secret
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bube's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kartofel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kugel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recipe.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ______________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo-discuss mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://sudoroom.org/lists/lis
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tinfo/sudo-discuss
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo-discuss mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://sudoroom.org/lists/lis
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tinfo/sudo-discuss
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Version: OpenPGP.js v.1.20121007
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Comment: http://openpgpjs.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> xsBNBFG3btUBB/9+/WJNOSIuc/praK
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PaPOweqXV5s7PGRD+HAnNWF/19YAY3
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AFtfeoelhhY4sMJoobTaJzcZojznZ1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kl/7UuuYCnbJO3Z9kaSMVrVxEZMSLe
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JQXh63BbfzjFqNbSWQfLhrubSM2Elq
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> xmN6EsmRyAuEeYlSnal+Di2MlViohp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CbbagE2D6AZTUECIamTib6+DuLG4XO
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> b4GGKHR9TXu2qS1VH6hqcvdEz2MDE5
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OqZzAnBgcF2dvcOdTk9gAOoR1T+qKj
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IJtg2X0ETbxcPqEXQoXE8VrxN0MLT5
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JQKTg26+csU4P2w0rEWsUsJombABEB
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AAHNJU1vcmdhbiBBbGxlbiA8bW9yZ2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FucmFsbGVuQGdtYWlsLmNvbT7CwFwE
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> EAECABAFAlG3btwJEG9pFLKaVEfeAA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> D7hwf+K8LN/kfgi8GTRLiTcuM+hSbm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uAeiBY+VaJIQFLzoFlt8A0hBlLNPFN
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NmUDxdPrMErdHgZ7HtJW/6RANuBTti
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5hr3EBguH1GQyK7BbUqJGvaEX4UNRe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> j3uyX3ufXDsIB/3NsKaTyyu+SO0+Hv
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cn2DwmlfSXcPhoarx6Turizn/WwgtT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> N3tqrMWxxiCKWydLH5xYuz+23BLMdc
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oF/zkbF+7ddFhmyfiFh4Ej9//tsfwP
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> j2cACU3uLTrcwCo7IxUtkrqMF/fhlm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LEqjhzDDjq9v7GNWb/5xB2xgTaucJ7
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /ljuS8nPlZqwCI8NlTgSqC8nyVLyjS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yVtOzkItcS0UqyW1Mg==
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =V/Ia
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cory Albert
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 415-670-0267 <(415)%20670-0267>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cory Albert
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 415-670-0267 <(415)%20670-0267>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cory Albert
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 415-670-0267
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cory Albert
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 415-670-0267
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cory Albert
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 415-670-0267
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Cory Albert
>>>>>> 415-670-0267 <(415)%20670-0267>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> sudo-discuss mailing list
>>>>>> sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org
>>>>>> https://sudoroom.org/lists/listinfo/sudo-discuss
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> sudo-discuss mailing list
>>>> sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org
>>>> https://sudoroom.org/lists/listinfo/sudo-discuss
>>>>
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> sudo-discuss mailing list
>> sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org
>> https://sudoroom.org/lists/listinfo/sudo-discuss
>>
>>
--
Cory Albert
415-670-0267
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