[sudo-discuss] sudoroom vinyl cutter setup and training
Cory Albert
pcalbert at gmail.com
Tue Mar 28 12:06:17 PDT 2017
We are on for 10 tonight?
On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 12:49 PM, Cory Albert <pcalbert at gmail.com> wrote:
> You need a very flat surface to work with. It needs to be about 3 ft
> wide, preferably at the end of the table rather than middle.
>
> On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 12:07 PM, Cory Albert <pcalbert at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> We will need some clear table space
>>
>> On Mar 27, 2017 9:02 AM, <hol at gaskill.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I'd like to learn Tues and can help make sure the cutter is connected to
>>> a computer beforehand. can you summarize any prep work we should do before
>>> you arrive Tuesday Cory? Thanks again for the donation and being willing
>>> to show us the ropes.
>>>
>>> On 2017-03-27 02:55, Cory Albert wrote:
>>>
>>> Tuesday at 10pm does
>>>
>>> On Mar 26, 2017 8:28 PM, "Jenny Ryan" <tunabananas at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'd like to learn, too! I can help host Tuesday ~6pm if some other
>>>> folks can be there to help coord? Cory does that work for you?
>>>>
>>>> Jenny
>>>>
>>>> Help open a people-powered common space in Oakland, California!
>>>> https://omnicommons.org/donate
>>>>
>>>> `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
>>>> "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories."
>>>> -Laurie Anderson
>>>>
>>>> "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining
>>>> it."
>>>> -Hannah Arendt
>>>>
>>>> "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."
>>>> -Stéphane Mallarmé
>>>> ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 4:38 PM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> bump! is anyone available to meet with Cory so that we can learn how
>>>>> to use
>>>>> the vinyl cutter he donated?
>>>>>
>>>>> -jake
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 3 Feb 2017, Cory Albert wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I am usually free Friday nights, I am usually in classes Monday thru
>>>>>> Thursday nights. Daytime during the week or weekend is usually more
>>>>>> flexible for me except when I have big work projects going on.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jan 31, 2017 10:41 AM, <hol at gaskill.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Could we do this tonight at hardware hack night? I moved the large
>>>>>>> format
>>>>>>> scanner from basement (which someone put in the e-waste pile?) that
>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>> be awesome for digitizing hand-drawn designs to convert to vector
>>>>>>> and run
>>>>>>> off on the vinyl cutter. Should be a dual rs232 card somewhere
>>>>>>> there which
>>>>>>> I am happy to install physically and driverally in a spare PC.
>>>>>>> Might even
>>>>>>> make sense to set this up in the basement next to other printy
>>>>>>> equipment.
>>>>>>> Thanks again for the donation!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2017-01-27 11:59, Cory Albert wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think I got the gender bender covered. I have three and one is
>>>>>>> bound to
>>>>>>> be straight through
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 11:51 AM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> here i'm replying to you and the sudoroom discuss list.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> does anyone at sudoroom want to host Cory to set up and demonstrate
>>>>>>>> use
>>>>>>>> of the
>>>>>>>> vinyl cutter he donated? we will need a computer running windows
>>>>>>>> (perhaps the
>>>>>>>> laser cutter laptop?) and a DB9 gender bender adaptor for our rs232
>>>>>>>> to usb
>>>>>>>> adaptor to fit.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 27 Jan 2017, Cory Albert wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Fridays or during the day weekdays are usually best for me. Can
>>>>>>>> you add
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> the sudoroom to this thread? Krystof is also interested in
>>>>>>>>> learning to
>>>>>>>>> use
>>>>>>>>> it as well but I don't think I have his email
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Jan 27, 2017 2:47 AM, "Jake" <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> if you email the sudoroom discuss list about it, there will surely
>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>> who want to meet with you to learn how to use the vinyl cutter
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm at sudoroom every tuesday night,but when you came by i didn't
>>>>>>>>> arrive
>>>>>>>>> until
>>>>>>>>> right after you left.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -jake
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 27 Jan 2017, Cory Albert wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Do you have any friends who have the free time?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 27, 2017 1:38 AM, "Jake" <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> no not yet, still need a db9 adaptor and a windows computer and
>>>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>>> free
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> time...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 26 Jan 2017, Cory Albert wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Did you get it running?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 19, 2017 11:25 AM, "Jake" <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ok got it, thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 19 Jan 2017, Cory Albert wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, you can't have my adapter. I have the software. I can
>>>>>>>>>>>>> give you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> download link. A straight through female to female should
>>>>>>>>>>>>> work for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you have now. or this:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/122202725149?vectorid=229466&lg
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eo=1&item=122202725149&rmvSB=true
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 8:18 PM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i have a serial to USB, but the connector on the printer is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> same as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> connector on the serial to USB, so they don't plug into one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have the adaptor cable you were using? or know the pinout?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> null-modem adaptor or is it straight-across?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do you have the specialized software? or know what it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> called?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 18 Jan 2017, Cory Albert wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was using a serial to USB. You can get them for $10
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> online. You
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> specialized software to run it as well
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 12:42 AM, Jake <jake at spaz.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ok great! thanks for the donation! I was a little thrown
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> off by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DB9M
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> connector on the printer, since DCE usually has a DB9F
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (female)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do you have the serial cord you were using with it?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 17 Jan 2017, Cory Albert wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would also like to get you set up to use it. Let
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> schedule a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that could happen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 7:46 PM, Cory Albert <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pcalbert at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I dropped off the cutter and some of the vinyl. I have a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bunch
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> supplies to follow. Twice as much vinyl, extra supplies,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> car
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> magnets. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also have an old pro Korg reverb effect module (rack
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mount)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> old
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MIDI
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> controller that I would like to donate as well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 7:19 PM, Jake <jake at spaz.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i'll be there soon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -jake
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (415)533-3699
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 17 Jan 2017, Cory Albert wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am here with some stuff. Gonna bring it in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 16, 2017 1:11 PM, "Jake" <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yes ok
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 16 Jan 2017, Cory Albert wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can bring the goods tomorrow evening if that works
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 20, 2016 5:00 PM, "Cory Albert" <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pcalbert at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am not gonna make it tonight. Maybe next week. You
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> windows
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PC that can be used to connect to the cutter.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows 7 or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> XP.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can get you setup.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 10:44 PM, Jake <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jake at spaz.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we'll take it all and I look forward to meeting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cory if he
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> makes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hardware
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hacking Tuesday at 7PM!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -jake
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 19 Dec 2016, Effie wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey friends,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hope the question of which gear donations you want
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cory,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> got
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> definitively answered here? Seems to have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> literally got
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> swept
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eWaste conversation!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> effie
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 3:30 PM, <hol at gaskill.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Deed is done thanks to help from Ed and Morgan.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Left
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> speakers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chairs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in place as not really e-waste, also sorted some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nice
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> large
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> flat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sheet
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> metal pieces over to the shop area. Some great
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perforated/vented
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ~20Ga
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sheet from that TV that's been taking up space.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Still
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> alot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> desks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> piled
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up on CCL border, and the robot area could use
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cleanup
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and/or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mounting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things to the wall tonight but space is looking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> great!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-12-13 11:58, Morgan Allen wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just finished lunch, be there in a couple minutes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 11:54 AM, <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hol at gaskill.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm here and CRV 1/2way loaded up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-12-12 15:09, hol at gaskill.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ed there is definitely more than will fit. Maybe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> convoy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> both loaded up? I think if we can get one extra
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> loader
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> addition
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Morgan, I think Ed and I can handle all the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unloading.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-12-12 13:40, Ed Biow wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey 'rades,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If it looks like more than can comfortably fit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CRV
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> give
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> holler
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and I can materialize at about noon with my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> big-ass
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> F150.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Special Ed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/12/2016 01:14 PM, Morgan Allen wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can be there to help load but won't likely
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> able to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unload.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 11:23 AM, <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hol at gaskill.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:hol at gaskill.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can do an Ewaste run tomorrow around
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> noon -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> help
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> load/unload? Thikning 2-3 people to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> help load
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ride shotgun and unload at facility.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CRV
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> huge
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> amount but should at least clear the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> walkway.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jake what is the unloading environment
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> next to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a pile and toss things or how does it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-12-11 20:29, Jake wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the e-waste run is ready when you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> look at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stuff
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> next to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fridge, it's begging for it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you know when it's happening i
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can try
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> show
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> help
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> load the truck or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whatever.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -jake
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 11 Dec 2016, Morgan Allen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I second the yes yes yes. Can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> help with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e-waste
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> run,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 11, 2016 at 6:34 PM,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jake <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jake at spaz.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:jake at spaz.org>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not so fast, Robb says yes to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think we need to do an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e-waste
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> run
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even have a place to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> put a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vinyl cutter, as well as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> roll the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> giant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> printer/copier
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mystery thing out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> room and get it out of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> building.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -jake
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 11 Dec 2016, Cory
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Albert
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hmm, I'll take that as a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yes. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bring
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stuff
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over next week
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sometime.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 11, 2016 at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5:29
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PM,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> robb
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <sf99er at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sf99er at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yes, yes, yes, yes, yes!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 11,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2016 at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4:14
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PM,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jake
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jake at spaz.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jake at spaz.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attention sudoroom:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do we want to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accept a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> donation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vinyl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cutter which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> comes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bunch of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rolls of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> different
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> colors
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vinyl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> material?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I know
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> noisebridge has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a lot more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> space
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> understand the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rolls of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vinyl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> take
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> most
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the space.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> he says the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> machine
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> works
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uses
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> serial
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interface, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> windows
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> software. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> easily
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> set
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> computer to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dedicate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wouldn't be a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> barrier
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> someone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wanted
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to use it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without going
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> through a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> software oddysey
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i'm guessing it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> looks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://productrealization.sta
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nford.edu/content/05-resources
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://productrealization.st
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anford.edu/content/05-resources>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /02-processes/10-vinyl-cutting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /header-images/vinyl-cutter-medium.jpg
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 9 Dec
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2016,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cory
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Albert
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jake: do you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> active in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> printed artist's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spaces
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cory could
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> donate a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> big
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> roll
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vinyl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and vinyl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cutters
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sign
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> making?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ______________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo-discuss
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mailing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> g
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo-discuss at lists.sud
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oroom.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://sudoroom.org/lists/lis
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tinfo/sudo-discuss
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://sudoroom.org/lists/li
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stinfo/sudo-discuss>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cory Albert
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 415-670-0267 <tel:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 415-670-0267
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ______________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo-discuss mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo-discuss at lists.sud
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oroom.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://sudoroom.org/lists/lis
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tinfo/sudo-discuss
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://sudoroom.org/lists/li
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stinfo/sudo-discuss
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BLOCK-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Version: OpenPGP.js v.1.20121007
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Comment: http://openpgpjs.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> xsBNBFG3btUBB/9+/WJNOSIuc/praK
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PaPOweqXV5s7PGRD+HAnNWF/19YAY3
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AFtfeoelhhY4sMJoobTaJzcZojznZ1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kl/7UuuYCnbJO3Z9kaSMVrVxEZMSLe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> YmW8Hc4ZsTnl9f05DQFy8ABpAvMLmX
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JQXh63BbfzjFqNbSWQfLhrubSM2Elq
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> xmN6EsmRyAuEeYlSnal+Di2MlViohp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CbbagE2D6AZTUECIamTib6+DuLG4XO
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> b4GGKHR9TXu2qS1VH6hqcvdEz2MDE5
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OqZzAnBgcF2dvcOdTk9gAOoR1T+qKj
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IJtg2X0ETbxcPqEXQoXE8VrxN0MLT5
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JQKTg26+csU4P2w0rEWsUsJombABEB
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AAHNJU1vcmdhbiBBbGxlbiA8bW9yZ2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FucmFsbGVuQGdtYWlsLmNvbT7CwFwE
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> EAECABAFAlG3btwJEG9pFLKaVEfeAA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> D7hwf+K8LN/kfgi8GTRLiTcuM+hSbm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uAeiBY+VaJIQFLzoFlt8A0hBlLNPFN
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NmUDxdPrMErdHgZ7HtJW/6RANuBTti
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5hr3EBguH1GQyK7BbUqJGvaEX4UNRe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> j3uyX3ufXDsIB/3NsKaTyyu+SO0+Hv
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cn2DwmlfSXcPhoarx6Turizn/WwgtT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> N3tqrMWxxiCKWydLH5xYuz+23BLMdc
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oF/zkbF+7ddFhmyfiFh4Ej9//tsfwP
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> j2cACU3uLTrcwCo7IxUtkrqMF/fhlm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LEqjhzDDjq9v7GNWb/5xB2xgTaucJ7
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /ljuS8nPlZqwCI8NlTgSqC8nyVLyjS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yVtOzkItcS0UqyW1Mg==
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =V/Ia
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BLOCK-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ______________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo-discuss mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:sudo-discuss at lists.sud
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oroom.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://sudoroom.org/lists/lis
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tinfo/sudo-discuss
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sudoroom.org/lists/li
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stinfo/sudo-discuss>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Version: OpenPGP.js v.1.20121007
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Comment: http://openpgpjs.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> xsBNBFG3btUBB/9+/WJNOSIuc/praK
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PaPOweqXV5s7PGRD+HAnNWF/19YAY3
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AFtfeoelhhY4sMJoobTaJzcZojznZ1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kl/7UuuYCnbJO3Z9kaSMVrVxEZMSLe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> YmW8Hc4ZsTnl9f05DQFy8ABpAvMLmX
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JQXh63BbfzjFqNbSWQfLhrubSM2Elq
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> xmN6EsmRyAuEeYlSnal+Di2MlViohp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CbbagE2D6AZTUECIamTib6+DuLG4XO
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> b4GGKHR9TXu2qS1VH6hqcvdEz2MDE5
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OqZzAnBgcF2dvcOdTk9gAOoR1T+qKj
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IJtg2X0ETbxcPqEXQoXE8VrxN0MLT5
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JQKTg26+csU4P2w0rEWsUsJombABEB
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AAHNJU1vcmdhbiBBbGxlbiA8bW9yZ2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FucmFsbGVuQGdtYWlsLmNvbT7CwFwE
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> EAECABAFAlG3btwJEG9pFLKaVEfeAA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> D7hwf+K8LN/kfgi8GTRLiTcuM+hSbm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uAeiBY+VaJIQFLzoFlt8A0hBlLNPFN
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NmUDxdPrMErdHgZ7HtJW/6RANuBTti
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5hr3EBguH1GQyK7BbUqJGvaEX4UNRe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> j3uyX3ufXDsIB/3NsKaTyyu+SO0+Hv
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cn2DwmlfSXcPhoarx6Turizn/WwgtT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> N3tqrMWxxiCKWydLH5xYuz+23BLMdc
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oF/zkbF+7ddFhmyfiFh4Ej9//tsfwP
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> j2cACU3uLTrcwCo7IxUtkrqMF/fhlm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LEqjhzDDjq9v7GNWb/5xB2xgTaucJ7
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /ljuS8nPlZqwCI8NlTgSqC8nyVLyjS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yVtOzkItcS0UqyW1Mg==
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =V/Ia
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ______________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo-discuss mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://sudoroom.org/lists/lis
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tinfo/sudo-discuss
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If God is watching us the least we can do is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entertaining.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately it is also probably the most we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Edmund Joseph Biow
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 328 Haddon Road
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oakland, California 94606
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (510) 763-0591 (try first, messages checked
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> morning,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dumb
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> phone,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> caller ID, leave number)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (415) 623-6473 (cell)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> EMAIL:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> biow at sonic.net - biow at riseup.net -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> biow at sonic.net -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ejbiow at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ebiow at yasashi.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IM: ejbiow at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To subscribe or unsubscribe to the lists I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moderate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> send
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> email
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> following:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subscribe:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> occupyoakland-subscribe at lists.riseup.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> occupyoaklanddiscuss-subscribe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @lists.riseup.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oaklandprivacyworkinggroup-sub
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scribe at lists.riseup.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oaklandpublicbank-subscribe at lists.riseup.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> occupyoaklandkitchen-subscribe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @lists.riseup.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oaklandlivablewagediscussion-s
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ubscribe at lists.riseup.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unsubscribe:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> occupyoakland-unsubscribe at lists.riseup.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> occupyoaklanddiscuss-unsubscri
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be at lists.riseup.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oaklandprivacyworkinggroup-uns
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ubscribe at lists.riseup.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oaklandpublicbank-unsubscribe@
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lists.riseup.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> occupyoaklandkitchen-unsubscri
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be at lists.riseup.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oaklandlivablewagediscussion-u
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nsubscribe at lists.riseup.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (\__/) .~ ~. ))
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /O O ./ .'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> {O__, \ {
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> / . . ) \
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |-| '-' \ } )) Warning squirrels:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .( _( )_.' Einstein is on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prowl.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> '---.~_ _ _&
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can use a PGP key to encrypt and secure
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> messages.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> start
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it, you'll need to install an OpenPGP
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> software on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> computer.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Below
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you'll find a list of possible solutions for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> operating
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> system:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows: Kleopatra (
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://gpg4win.de/download.ht
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ml)Linux
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GnuPG
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (https://www.gnupg.org/downloa
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> d/supported_systems.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> )
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OS X: GPG Keychain (
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://gpgtools.org/#gpgsuite)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Linux: GnuPG (https://www.gnupg.org/related
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _software/frontends.html)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Android: OpenKeychain
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (https://play.google.com/store
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /apps/details?id=org.sufficien
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tlysecure.keychain)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iOS: iPGMail (https://itunes.apple.com/us/a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pp/ipgmail/id430780873?mt=8)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Once you set up PGP on your computer please
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> import
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> public
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> key
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> into
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your local OpenPGP Key-Manager. The valid PGP
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keys
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> biow at cubasoldarity.net & biow at riseup.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accounts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> downloaded
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here: http://ebiow.yasashi.net/pgp/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> An "easy" way to set up PGP on your computer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> download
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> free
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> &
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> open sources Thunderbird email client
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (available on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Linux,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windohs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> &
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> O$X) & install the EnigMail Add-On.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thunderbird/all.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.enigmail.net/download/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.enigmail.net/docum
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entation/quickstart-ch1.php
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Looking forward to exchange snooping-free
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> messages
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> &
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> making
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NSA spend mondo bucks to discover the secret
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bube's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kartofel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kugel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recipe.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ______________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo-discuss mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://sudoroom.org/lists/lis
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tinfo/sudo-discuss
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ______________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo-discuss mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://sudoroom.org/lists/lis
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tinfo/sudo-discuss
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Version: OpenPGP.js v.1.20121007
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Comment: http://openpgpjs.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> xsBNBFG3btUBB/9+/WJNOSIuc/praK
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PaPOweqXV5s7PGRD+HAnNWF/19YAY3
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AFtfeoelhhY4sMJoobTaJzcZojznZ1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kl/7UuuYCnbJO3Z9kaSMVrVxEZMSLe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> YmW8Hc4ZsTnl9f05DQFy8ABpAvMLmX
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JQXh63BbfzjFqNbSWQfLhrubSM2Elq
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> xmN6EsmRyAuEeYlSnal+Di2MlViohp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CbbagE2D6AZTUECIamTib6+DuLG4XO
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> b4GGKHR9TXu2qS1VH6hqcvdEz2MDE5
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OqZzAnBgcF2dvcOdTk9gAOoR1T+qKj
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IJtg2X0ETbxcPqEXQoXE8VrxN0MLT5
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JQKTg26+csU4P2w0rEWsUsJombABEB
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AAHNJU1vcmdhbiBBbGxlbiA8bW9yZ2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FucmFsbGVuQGdtYWlsLmNvbT7CwFwE
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> EAECABAFAlG3btwJEG9pFLKaVEfeAA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> D7hwf+K8LN/kfgi8GTRLiTcuM+hSbm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uAeiBY+VaJIQFLzoFlt8A0hBlLNPFN
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NmUDxdPrMErdHgZ7HtJW/6RANuBTti
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5hr3EBguH1GQyK7BbUqJGvaEX4UNRe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> j3uyX3ufXDsIB/3NsKaTyyu+SO0+Hv
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cn2DwmlfSXcPhoarx6Turizn/WwgtT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> N3tqrMWxxiCKWydLH5xYuz+23BLMdc
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oF/zkbF+7ddFhmyfiFh4Ej9//tsfwP
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> j2cACU3uLTrcwCo7IxUtkrqMF/fhlm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LEqjhzDDjq9v7GNWb/5xB2xgTaucJ7
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /ljuS8nPlZqwCI8NlTgSqC8nyVLyjS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yVtOzkItcS0UqyW1Mg==
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =V/Ia
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cory Albert
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 415-670-0267 <(415)%20670-0267>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cory Albert
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 415-670-0267 <(415)%20670-0267>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cory Albert
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 415-670-0267
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cory Albert
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 415-670-0267
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cory Albert
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 415-670-0267
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Cory Albert
>>>>>>> 415-670-0267 <(415)%20670-0267>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> sudo-discuss mailing list
>>>>>>> sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org
>>>>>>> https://sudoroom.org/lists/listinfo/sudo-discuss
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> sudo-discuss mailing list
>>>>> sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org
>>>>> https://sudoroom.org/lists/listinfo/sudo-discuss
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> sudo-discuss mailing list
>>> sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org
>>> https://sudoroom.org/lists/listinfo/sudo-discuss
>>>
>>>
>
>
> --
> Cory Albert
> 415-670-0267 <(415)%20670-0267>
>
--
Cory Albert
415-670-0267
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