[sudo-discuss] Proposal: Co-Invest in 15' Step Ladder

[Jenny Ryan]

To Brendan's points:
* The ladder you posted lists in specs: Step Ladder Maximum Height - Closed
(ft.) - 8.58
The ladder needs to be A-Frame height tall enough to reach the ballroom
ceiling (21' - 7' estimate human height reaching = 13' minimum standing
from the top step, so 15' safely)
* Re: OSHA, the listing I posted states "The Skyscraper M15 exceeds all
OSHA and ANSI standards and is rated to hold up to 300 lbs. " The postings
Patrik listed all claim to be OSHA-Compliant, as well - can you post a link
or quote the code re: aluminum ladders?

To Patrik's -
Most of the ladders on the Home Depot site all have estimated delivery
times of March 1-6, are not adjustable, and store at full height (14'-16'),
whereas the one I posted will arrive between Feb 6-9, is fully adjustable,
and stores at 8' (meaning it can be transported on a car's roof rack,
otherwise this cost would not be split with mesh). Also, the only ones
sufficiently tall enough (16') are in the $600 range, except for the last
one you listed:

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Louisville-Ladder-16-ft-Aluminum-Step-Ladder-with-300-lbs-Load-Capacity-Type-IA-Duty-Rating-AS1016/300388424
That one's $433 and expected delivery between Feb 2-8

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Werner-14-ft-Fiberglass-Twin-Step-Ladder-with-300-lb-Load-Capacity-Type-IA-T7414/203134372?MERCH=REC-_-rv_gm_pip_rr-_-300388424-_-203134372-_-N
This one *may* suffice (ceiling reachable from the top step), and is
fiberglass and $495. The 16' version is $597. Neither would arrive until
March, tho.

If we go for the $433 ladder, we'd need to be able to store it at 16' and
mesh wouldn't participate in the cost-share. Split equitably that'd be $150
each from Omni, Sudo & CCL, or weighted, $250 from Omni and $100 each from
sudo & CCL.

Jenny

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On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 5:51 PM, Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Is it just me, or does $675 seem awfully expensive for a 300lb, 15'
> ladder?
>
> Here's a few 14' and 16' ladders at Home Despot that are closer to the
> $400 range:
>
> https://www.homedepot.com/p/Werner-14-ft-Aluminum-Step-
> Ladder-with-300-lb-Load-Capacity-Type-IA-414/203134172
> https://www.homedepot.com/p/Louisville-Ladder-14-ft-
> Aluminum-Step-Ladder-with-300-lbs-Load-Capacity-Type-IA-
> Duty-Rating-AS1014/300388422
> https://www.homedepot.com/p/Werner-14-ft-Fiberglass-Twin-
> Step-Ladder-with-300-lb-Load-Capacity-Type-IA-T7414/203134372
> https://www.homedepot.com/p/Louisville-Ladder-16-ft-
> Aluminum-Step-Ladder-with-300-lbs-Load-Capacity-Type-IA-
> Duty-Rating-AS1016/300388424
>
> Patrik
>
> On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 4:08 PM, Jenny Ryan <tunabananas at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Greetings Omninoms/sudoers/CCL'ers/meshers,
>>
>> Last week, Omni's tall A-frame ladder disappeared from the entrance hall
>> (if anyone noticed someone exiting the building with a ~13' wooden ladder,
>> lmk).
>>
>> Robb and I did a bit of research, and ladders that tall are hard to come
>> by and fairly expensive. This 15' A-frame Little Giant seems to be the best
>> bet:
>> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00064C4SQ/
>>
>> Our scaffolding is bulky, takes time to set up, and doesn't reach the
>> ceilings in the ballroom, entrance hall nor sudo/ccl. A bucket lift is ~10x
>> more expensive, and wouldn't be able to access some parts of the building
>> we'd use it in. With a ladder this size, we could use it for working on the
>> ceilings everywhere - and mesh could use it for our Sunday node mounts.
>>
>> The cost is $674.80, so I'm proposing the following financial split:
>> * Omni - $330
>> * Sudo - $115
>> * CCL - $115
>> * Sudo Mesh - $115
>>
>> Ideas on how best to securely store it?
>>
>> Please let me know asap if there are any blocking concerns or better
>> ideas. I'll bring it up at the next sudoroom and mesh meetings and
>> hopefully someone can bring it up at CCL's.
>>
>> <3
>> Jenny
>>
>> Help open a professional kitchen at the Omni Commons in Oakland!
>> https://omnicommons.org/kitchen
>>
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>> "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories."
>> -Laurie Anderson
>>
>> "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining
>> it."
>>  -Hannah Arendt
>>
>> "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."
>> -Stéphane Mallarmé
>>
>> "Anything done for the first time unleashes a demon."
>> --Dave Sim, "Cerebus the Aardvark"
>> ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
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