[sudo-discuss] Finances and Fundraising

Jenny Ryan tunabananas at gmail.com
Tue Sep 4 14:50:03 PDT 2018 

awsum!!
also, not sure how it will show up since the Village is also receiving
donations through the PayPal Giving Fund via *Omni's* PayPal account - Sudo
Room has its own paypal account: paypal at sudoroom.org, and that's the
account I used to register on the eBay Charity listing...
so anyway, if you see a duplicate Omni when listing the charity, that's the
email
<3
Jenny

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-Laurie Anderson

"Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it."
 -Hannah Arendt

"To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."
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On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 2:42 PM Autonomous <autonomous666 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Allrighty!  I'll create some ebay listings and donate a percentage of the
> proceeds to Omni Commons.
>
> On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 2:32 PM Jenny Ryan <tunabananas at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> It is done, pending review of the bank statement I just uploaded:
>> https://www.charity.ebay.com/charity/Omni-Commons/2067459
>> great idea autonomous :)
>> <3
>> Jenny
>>
>> Help open a professional kitchen at the Omni Commons in Oakland!
>> https://omnicommons.org/kitchen
>>
>> `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
>> "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories."
>> -Laurie Anderson
>>
>> "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining
>> it."
>>  -Hannah Arendt
>>
>> "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."
>> -Stéphane Mallarmé
>>
>> "Anything done for the first time unleashes a demon."
>> --Dave Sim, "Cerebus the Aardvark"
>> ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 2:20 PM Jenny Ryan <tunabananas at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> It was amended in our 2016 federal tax return:
>>> https://omnicommons.org/mediawiki/images/7/7a/OC_2016_990.pdf (Part B
>>> at top left),
>>> and according to Jesse that suffices. the IRS also states this:
>>>
>>> https://www.irs.gov/charities-non-profits/charitable-organizations/change-of-name-exempt-organizations
>>> we also filed the changes with the Secretary of State:
>>> https://businessfilings.sos.ca.gov/
>>>
>>> both OOC and OC are listed on Guidestar.
>>>
>>> <3
>>> Jenny
>>>
>>> Help open a professional kitchen at the Omni Commons in Oakland!
>>> https://omnicommons.org/kitchen
>>>
>>> `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
>>> "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories."
>>> -Laurie Anderson
>>>
>>> "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining
>>> it."
>>>  -Hannah Arendt
>>>
>>> "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."
>>> -Stéphane Mallarmé
>>>
>>> "Anything done for the first time unleashes a demon."
>>> --Dave Sim, "Cerebus the Aardvark"
>>> ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 2:08 PM robb <sf99er at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> i'll ping omni's finance working group about the name change matter
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 2:03 PM, Autonomous <autonomous666 at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> My understanding is that Sudo Room 501(c)3 was reorganized as "Omni
>>>>> Commons" and that the existing bylaws and board from the former "Omni
>>>>> Oakland Commons" were adopted by Sudo Room 501(c)3, and no new entity was
>>>>> created in the process. The names "Omni Commons" or "Omni Oakland
>>>>> Commons" do not come up in tax exempt organization searches, whereas the
>>>>> IRS still shows the EIN and name for Sudo Room as an organization eligible
>>>>> to receive tax deductible charitable contributions.
>>>>>
>>>>> Filing a name change with the IRS from "Sudo Room" to "Omni Commons"
>>>>> for EIN 46-4109670 would clear up the confusion not to mention enabling
>>>>> Omni Commons to show up in searches for public charities.
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>* The current idea is to essentially use the "shell" of the
>>>>> 501(c)3*
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>* organization that the Sudo folks set up, but change its bylaws and board
>>>>> *>>>* such that the new organization is governed by the delegates meeting,
>>>>> *>>>* exactly matching the current Omni organization. And likely change its name
>>>>> *>>>* to something like "Omni 2"
>>>>> *>>>>>>* Also make sure to check Jenny's latest thread: the very latest
>>>>> *>>>* development is that this new "Omni 2" 501(c)3 could receive *both* the $1M
>>>>> *>>>* donation and the $1M loan from our generous benefactor, which would hugely
>>>>> *>>>* simplify things.
>>>>> *>>>>>>* The people currently in the Sudo collective would have no more control
>>>>> *>>>* over the new "Omni 2" than any of the other collectives. They could set up
>>>>> *>>>* a new nonprofit organization - essentially having "donated" their old
>>>>> *>>>* 501(c)3 to Omni - or they could become a sponsored project of Omni 2.
>>>>> *>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 12:43 PM <hol at gaskill.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Correct, there has been a change where sudo room is a project of a
>>>>>> larger entity, not its own legal entity, so that letter of determination is
>>>>>> deprecated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On fundraising, I'd love to revisit the idea of fabricating and
>>>>>> selling "sudoino" arduino clones.  Jake I agree with your past
>>>>>> recommendations RE using the leonardo chipset now that I've messed with
>>>>>> them a bit.  Could have a basic model and a few different variations, seems
>>>>>> to be the way people do it now.  I've been paying $10 for the knockoff
>>>>>> fullsize ones (3 for micro w/o headers) and kicking myself that I dropped
>>>>>> the ball a few years ago.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2018-09-04 12:27, robb wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> however it would also be fraud as sudoroom's 501c3 wuz reorganized as
>>>>>> omni commons when we bought the building. since then, sudo haz bin a
>>>>>> fiscally sponsored project of omni commons.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 11:56 AM, Autonomous <autonomous666 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Robb,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I attached a copy of the IRS letter of determination showing Sudo
>>>>>>> Room received 501(c)3 exemption in February 2016. This letter would be
>>>>>>> sufficient to obtain public charity listings on guidestar, ebay for
>>>>>>> charity, etc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 11:46 AM robb <sf99er at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> i think we would have to do it through sudomesh or omni as we don't
>>>>>>>> haz our pwn 501c3
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 9:54 AM, Autonomous <autonomous666 at gmail.com
>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As soon as Sudo Room is listed as a charitable organization on
>>>>>>>>> Ebay for Charity I have several unused items I can sell and donate a
>>>>>>>>> percentage of the proceeds to Sudo Room.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 1:50 AM Marc Juul <marc at juul.io> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 10:58 PM, Autonomous <
>>>>>>>>>> autonomous666 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> > Sudo-room is currently broke. Not taking in enough money to
>>>>>>>>>>> cover expenses nor plan for any future needs.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Any updates on the latest financial status of Sudo Room? Here's
>>>>>>>>>>> a fundraising idea:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I run a 501(c)3 public charity and have been raising funds by
>>>>>>>>>>> receiving donations of physical items and re-selling them on ebay through
>>>>>>>>>>> "ebay for charity". It's enough to cover monthly expenses! I know Sudo
>>>>>>>>>>> receives donations of physical goods on a regular basis - some of which may
>>>>>>>>>>> not be needed. Sudo may also put items up for sale on ebay from time to
>>>>>>>>>>> time, and it is a plus to have "benefits charity" added to the listing.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We could definitely do this. Anyone who's willing to take on some
>>>>>>>>>> of the work involved in acquiring, testing or selling the donations?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We already have a few things we could sell.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> marc/juul
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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