[sudo-discuss] new proposal - need input

[Jenny Ryan]

I didn't want to give my thoughts here, but I'm not sure I can attend the
meeting this evening. I actually have trauma from the last delegate's
meeting I attended, which ended with Almaz making a string of cruel
personal attacks against me because I stood up to the lies she was making
in that meeting alone - eg; that delegates had already consented to locking
the room, and that all back rent had been paid in full so they were in good
standing (current debt is >$2K - and again, as treasurer and bottomliner of
the budget I assure you we *do* need the money) - but it's more a matter of
accountability and sticking to agreements. I have not witnessed that to be
the case in my many interactions with Almaz. I could provide a list of well
over a dozen instances, not just those referenced in this thread, but have
refrained from doing so because I am one of her direct targets.

When anyone attempts to hold her accountable, they get personally attacked,
declared racist, and badmouthed extensively. It feels abusive, honestly,
and it's sad that some folks refuse to see how those who've worked directly
with Almaz are consistently condescended to, bullied, and manipulated while
others who know her tertiarily are simply lied to. I am tired of being
thrown under the bus by this individual for being responsible and
attempting to hold people to their agreements. If anyone would like to take
over my role as Sudo's board member, I'm more than ready for that at this
point.

Blocking concerns.

Jenny

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On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 11:47 AM Adam <me at adammunich.com> wrote:

> I had a similar problem with somebody I was supporting, they always made
> promises that they would pay back, get things straight, etc. It never
> happened.
>
> What I learned from the experience is that ultimately you have to trust
> people's actions above words, and be very firm about deadlines. Otherwise
> there are definitely folks who will stretch any situation where you give
> too much leeway --not that I'm accusing anyone of doing that here, but that
> it's just a thing to watch out for.
>
> Personally, my biggest worry is that if somebody is causing drama, that if
> should they not get their way on some occasion, they might escalate said
> drama to the city or local regulatory bodies. I have seen this happen with
> the community in San Francisco and the result was not good.
>
> On Mon, Jan 21, 2019, 8:16 PM Yardena Cohen <yardenack at gmail.com wrote:
>
>> They're not asking for "free rent forever" - I don't even know where
>> people are getting that idea. Please read the proposal again - they're
>> offering to continue paying as much as they're able, up to 50% of
>> their budget, with the understanding that this would settle any
>> outstanding debts.
>>
>> Robb, are you talking about the "Out of the Blue" event which is
>> specifically mentioned in the email you forwarded, which they say was
>> a miscommunication which they're willing to move on from?
>>
>> If we're talking about good faith, the most important aspect IMO is
>> the ASSUMPTION of good faith. That means when someone tells you what
>> they can afford, don't accuse them of lying based on snap judgements
>> about their clothes, or of secretly hiding donations because they're
>> fiscally sponsored by someone else, or of embezzling money just
>> because someone else "completed the contract" for an event, or of
>> "holding back-rent as a carrot gift" when they're clearly just trying
>> to settle their debts in whatever way possible.
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