[sudo-discuss] a very racist encounter from a man named Rob

Karissa McKelvey karissa.mckelvey at gmail.com
Thu Jul 11 19:52:15 PDT 2019


Classic.

let it be known also that 'serious accountability process' is not the same
as 'mediation'  and I hope it is treated as the former, not the latter..


On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 6:57 PM Pete Forsyth <peteforsyth at gmail.com> wrote:

> All, I hope my intrusion is a helpful one. I'm viewing this from pretty
> far away.
>
> I can easily imagine myself responding in the way Robb describes, without
> any racist intent. I can easily imagine it being legitimately interpreted
> as racist. I think the situation Robb describes is one in which balancing
> the needs for friendliness, security, and respect for oneself and others in
> the building would be *difficult*, and it's easy to err in any number of
> ways without ill intent. So I don't think any of you arguing about it
> necessarily have different values or even desire different outcomes.
>
> I don't think that an email list discussion is going to lead to an outcome
> either/any of you want.
>
> There was some mention of mediation, and I think that kind of structure
> could be helpful, if there's somebody willing to mediate. Is it possible to
> come up with a simple set of protocols to follow when somebody rings the
> bell, but can't demonstrate a reason they should be admitted?
>
> Maybe having instructions readily available would help people in Robb's
> position respond in a way that everybody could appreciate. I sincerely
> doubt he wanted to do otherwise, even if his actions came off as hostile
> and lead to undesirable results.
>
> -Pete
>
> (missing Sudo Room and the Omni and wishing you all well)
> On 7/1/19 6:08 PM, robb wrote:
>
> @ Niki,
> i admit i got annoyed by the singular long ring of the door bell but
> i think i'll take anti-oppression advice from someone other than the one
> who originally started the bad blood with Almaz by refusing to allow her to
> be an equal in your previous cafe enterprise
>
>
>
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