[sudo-discuss] a very racist encounter from a man named Rob

robb sf99er at gmail.com
Thu Jul 11 21:00:40 PDT 2019


i still haven't heard from anybody
i'm open to any form of resolution

On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 7:52 PM Karissa McKelvey <karissa.mckelvey at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Classic.
>
> let it be known also that 'serious accountability process' is not the same
> as 'mediation'  and I hope it is treated as the former, not the latter..
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 6:57 PM Pete Forsyth <peteforsyth at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> All, I hope my intrusion is a helpful one. I'm viewing this from pretty
>> far away.
>>
>> I can easily imagine myself responding in the way Robb describes, without
>> any racist intent. I can easily imagine it being legitimately interpreted
>> as racist. I think the situation Robb describes is one in which balancing
>> the needs for friendliness, security, and respect for oneself and others in
>> the building would be *difficult*, and it's easy to err in any number of
>> ways without ill intent. So I don't think any of you arguing about it
>> necessarily have different values or even desire different outcomes.
>>
>> I don't think that an email list discussion is going to lead to an
>> outcome either/any of you want.
>>
>> There was some mention of mediation, and I think that kind of structure
>> could be helpful, if there's somebody willing to mediate. Is it possible to
>> come up with a simple set of protocols to follow when somebody rings the
>> bell, but can't demonstrate a reason they should be admitted?
>>
>> Maybe having instructions readily available would help people in Robb's
>> position respond in a way that everybody could appreciate. I sincerely
>> doubt he wanted to do otherwise, even if his actions came off as hostile
>> and lead to undesirable results.
>>
>> -Pete
>>
>> (missing Sudo Room and the Omni and wishing you all well)
>> On 7/1/19 6:08 PM, robb wrote:
>>
>> @ Niki,
>> i admit i got annoyed by the singular long ring of the door bell but
>> i think i'll take anti-oppression advice from someone other than the one
>> who originally started the bad blood with Almaz by refusing to allow her to
>> be an equal in your previous cafe enterprise
>>
>>
>>
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