[sudo-discuss] a very racist encounter from a man named Rob

Robert Chu robert.chu01 at gmail.com
Thu Jul 11 22:06:59 PDT 2019


So I read the incident from Scott's perspective. The subject was also
titled "A very racist encounter..." There was no specific point of Robb
being racist.
"  After Deon was able to enter Omni, Rob then started following him around
and harassing him, acting like a cop. Although this is egregious in and of
itself, and a terrible counter-representation of the Omni's values, this
all came to a head when Rob accused Deon of not being "an actual, normal,
human being".

If anything it is racist against the whole human race, not just one
specific race.

Then I feel the next part was a clear interpretation, of a non-racist event
taking place.

Whether or not this was intentional, it evoked longstanding racist
attitudes that black folks have been subjected to, suggesting that Deon was
less-than, or sub-human. Deon was so offended that he promptly left the
Omni and has not been back since.  "

Then once again there is the misleading subject of "A racist encounter...."

Are there any data points that may have been overlooked that could give us
a better understanding of why a person would consider another person a
racists, when the only thing I gather is Human Being which may translate to
Human Race, yet then again that means all races.


Just trying to understand how Robb is being considered a racist, by an
interpretation of what seems to me being a "non-racist" statement.

Thanks
Robert Albert Young Chu
P::415-724-0425
E:: robert.chu01 at gmail.com


On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 9:01 PM robb <sf99er at gmail.com> wrote:

> i still haven't heard from anybody
> i'm open to any form of resolution
>
> On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 7:52 PM Karissa McKelvey <
> karissa.mckelvey at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Classic.
>>
>> let it be known also that 'serious accountability process' is not the
>> same as 'mediation'  and I hope it is treated as the former, not the
>> latter..
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 6:57 PM Pete Forsyth <peteforsyth at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> All, I hope my intrusion is a helpful one. I'm viewing this from pretty
>>> far away.
>>>
>>> I can easily imagine myself responding in the way Robb describes,
>>> without any racist intent. I can easily imagine it being legitimately
>>> interpreted as racist. I think the situation Robb describes is one in which
>>> balancing the needs for friendliness, security, and respect for oneself and
>>> others in the building would be *difficult*, and it's easy to err in any
>>> number of ways without ill intent. So I don't think any of you arguing
>>> about it necessarily have different values or even desire different
>>> outcomes.
>>>
>>> I don't think that an email list discussion is going to lead to an
>>> outcome either/any of you want.
>>>
>>> There was some mention of mediation, and I think that kind of structure
>>> could be helpful, if there's somebody willing to mediate. Is it possible to
>>> come up with a simple set of protocols to follow when somebody rings the
>>> bell, but can't demonstrate a reason they should be admitted?
>>>
>>> Maybe having instructions readily available would help people in Robb's
>>> position respond in a way that everybody could appreciate. I sincerely
>>> doubt he wanted to do otherwise, even if his actions came off as hostile
>>> and lead to undesirable results.
>>>
>>> -Pete
>>>
>>> (missing Sudo Room and the Omni and wishing you all well)
>>> On 7/1/19 6:08 PM, robb wrote:
>>>
>>> @ Niki,
>>> i admit i got annoyed by the singular long ring of the door bell but
>>> i think i'll take anti-oppression advice from someone other than the one
>>> who originally started the bad blood with Almaz by refusing to allow her to
>>> be an equal in your previous cafe enterprise
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>> --
>> Karissa McKelvey
>> https://okdistribute.xyz
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