[sudo-discuss] Is upstairs "public" computer lab considered part of Sudo Room ?

Wed Apr 21 11:42:27 PDT 2021

Thank you Jenny. Your information helped clarify things for me.

I am definitely pro having a public computer terminal at Omni Commons
overall.

In couple of other similar volunteer run community spaces I have been
involved with, we had public computer terminals but would have continuous
challenges with folks taking over the terminals and the computers not being
very accessible by the wider community of participants & random visitors
for occasional usage.

It is not major issue at the OC but there was a East Bay Food Not Bombs
volunteer who may have been unhoused and needed to have access to email.
They waited couple hours until there was a spot at the computer terminal
available even though there are 4 computers I think (about 3 months ago.)
Small example but I wonder if that was issue pre-COVID and might be
post-COVID (?)

I'll double check with North Oakland Mutual Aid volunteer who said they had
uncomfortable interaction with Tom about intergalactic space families stuff
with traditional gender roles (sounded like some kind of right wing version
of Ursula le Guin ?!?)

Dane

On Tue, Apr 20, 2021, 20:42 Jenny Ryan <jenny at jennyryan.net> wrote:

> Also, while Sudo Room members may have set up this area in 2014, the area
> is and has always been Commons and not Sudo Room's 'jurisdiction' (which is
> also by and large common space). The same could be said for about every
> square foot of Omni, to be honest. This is not an issue that can be
> shuffled onto a specific collective - in particular one that doesn't really
> exist in full anymore, primarily because the most involved members of Sudo
> Room became rapidly subsumed by the larger Omni project pretty much off the
> bat (and most of them have left or burnt out at this point). If there are
> issues with particular users of the space, this needs to be brought up with
> them directly and, failing that, brought through our conflict resolution
> process.
>
> Open to creative solutions, though, if anyone wants to suggest?
>
> -Jenny
> On 4/20/21 8:30 PM, Jenny Ryan wrote:
>
> Hey Dane!
>
> I appreciate the intention here, but I think it's a bit complex. We could
> do away with the terminals entirely, but it seems pretty shit to provide
> community space without public terminals. Do you have any insights from
> your experiences in other similar spaces that you could share?
>
> I gave Phil a nice laptop about two years ago, but I think it may have
> broken down and I can't recall the followup? Happy to repair / replace -
> but iirc Phil rejected that offer when I made it. I'll check back in.
>
> Tom is special. I tend to be kind but avoidant.. have never heard anyone
> complain of him being explicitly harmful nor offensive. Never seen him harp
> on anyone who simply walks away. Have you had experiences otherwise?
>
> With love,
>
> Jenny
> On 4/20/21 5:11 PM, Dane wrote:
>
> Hey Sudo Room,
>
> I wonder if the "public" computer lab upstairs could be repurposed. Still
> have computers but with possible automatic time limits and no one
> privatizing that Commons space.
>
> Phil does great work keeping the OC good, wonder if Sudo Room has laptop
> that Phil could borrow when at the OC ?
>
> Tom does volunteer work at the OC but they are very messy and like to talk
> to people about their Intergalactic Space proposal often (?)
> ...
> Not sure if Tom plans to start Intergalactic Sex Cult (?!?) but Tom
> definitely is trying to recruit specific people (wants to recruit "men and
> women for Intergalactic space community" ??? (Not my words.)
> Tom also misgenders a lot of LGBTQ & Gender Non Conforming folks !
> Ask North Oakland Mutual Aid folks ! )
>
> Weird shit etc.
>
> "Against Intergalactic Sex Cults: A Genealogical Study of Sexual Hierarchy
> under Late Capitalism !"
>
> Dane
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 16, 2021, 18:11 Jenny Ryan <tunabananas at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> hey Ed,
>> I love you
>> and Einstein- stay strong!!
>> <3
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 12, 2021, 17:29 Ed Biow <biow at riseup.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I thought the Omni was still officially closed, especially to
>>> non-members.
>>>
>>> I am a sudoroom room member and have maintained the public computers and
>>> kept the software & hardware going, but because of the plandemic & my age &
>>> precarious health I've been too shit-scared to go in the Omni for over a
>>> year. However I got my second poke Thursday and should be able to return by
>>> the end of the month. I'll do my best to clean things up and make sure all
>>> the boxen are in good shape. I also built a 6/12 core Ryzen 5 1600AF
>>> machine with 32GB of RAM that I planned to give to Liberated Lens, but if
>>> they don't want it and/or the rest of sudoroom thinks it might have a home
>>> elsewhere I can drop it off, as well, or perhaps something comparable.
>>>
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>>> will be canid-free shortly; one of the reasons I didn't spend enough time
>>> in the Omni was that my pup always hated the place, so I'll probably come
>>> by at least once a week while I am town starting May Day and will endeavor
>>> to make sure things are slightly more hygienic.
>>> On 4/12/21 11:02 AM, Yardena Cohen wrote:
>>>
>>> It's not part of sudoroom, but it's a problem. 2-3 men have claimed
>>> that corner and dug themselves in. I think the best solution to that
>>> problem is to add more people. Have regular structured events in which
>>> new people can be encouraged to use the things. It feels harsh to say
>>> "take a break and go somewhere else" when the immediate result would
>>> be just an empty room. It's easier to say that when you have a group
>>> of people who also want to use the computers.
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