Mesh/05 Sep 2017

Peoples Open Meeting - 5 Sept 2017

attendees

state your name, what you've been up to, and your favorite form of labor

grant (favorite form of labor: painting), blake2 (just got node last week, had trouble), gregg (easy labor, new to mesh, wants to know more) eve (if she had a garden she would be in it), sierk (had no internet access for a week, helping things and society at large, things that are useful), blake (secure wifi protcols, militant labor) scott (childbirth, second choice: woodspliting), jorrit (thinking about workshop, no labor)

updates

• scott - disaster radio - did range test last night, got almost .5 mile
• gregg - where can I get wifi right now from
  • grant - explained difference between node-to-node and normal "peoplesopen.net 65.7.65"
    • gregg - wants to help with ipV6, so he can talk to ipV6 to the internet
• jorrit - thought on workshop, we keep coming up with diaster scenarios, but we don't need to travel far to find disasters, there's extreme poverty everywhere already, demonstrations, protest are a good example already
• blake - someone asked before last berkeley rally if sudomesh could provide internet
  • sierk - recalls discussion of providing internet to the village homeless colony
    • jorrit - is it for communication between organizers
      • blake - walkie talkies were not working well because of static, most reverted to signalk
        • jorrit - make a list of needs and put it somewhere
          • sierk - scuttlebutt might also work in protest scenario, this is how we could test a disaster scenario
            • jorrit - these situations are perfect use case
              • blake - that is where twitter came from
• sierk - bullitt put up bugs repo, will add a "bug" for a protest scenario deployment
  • jorrit - maybe we can sit down for 10 mins tonight and go over the needs for

list of needs:

• overly over lan
• encrypted
• push to talk
• messaging
• limit access, there are bad actors

• grant - a good application of [peoplesopen.net/gardenmesh gardenmesh]???
• jorrit - but it needs voice?
• jorrit - coins "demo mesh"
• sierk - should make it broader than "demo" mesh.
• jorrit - once it is working and working nicely, you can see what else you can use it for
• sierk - make it extendable for more use cases than just demonstrations
• scott - large number of users, and higher bandwidth utilties
• blake - is there a source of truth, are there public keys, who controls access? central node? star topography?

--- a little intermezzo summarizing the demo mesh discussion --- some use cases for "demo mesh" - communicating at a protest

> shared trust between organizers / admins to create secured communication channel
> communication channel contains voice walkie-talkie / group-voice / text / listen
> communication channel contains text
> client runs on smart-phone
> use the 

some possible solutions

> need a mesh of individual client be provide flexible, reliable network (wifi)
> client needs to roam
> (scott) go-tennas 
> use same tech as counter-side is using - radios

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• grant - suggests mash up of sudomesh and scuttlebutt as an existing solution
• jorrit - that just goes back to technical solutions, need to focus on the problems...
• scott - mentioned go-tennas (https://www.gotenna.com/)
• blake - I have a friend with view on east bay from the city -
• randon link - Tactical Urbanism https://americanlibrariesmagazine.org/2017/09/01/tactical-urbanism/

website

https://pad.riseup.net/p/meshguides

• grant - made updates with bullitt added a donate button
• grant - invites comments on the meshguides pad above
• grant - planning to update website before website
• sierk - to work with grant on mailing list signup
• gregg - how is in change of the website
• grant - we all are - see https://github.com/sudomesh/peoplesopen-front
• gregg - I see a broken link to map on the wordpress blog
• gregg - do we have a coverage map?
  • grant/scott - we have a physical map with pins / no coverage map

workshop

here's the organizing notes for the - https://pad.riseup.net/p/byoi

• jorrit - last week we discussed the order of proceedings listed in notes
• grant - suggests bullitt's logo design contest idea
• grant - does not want to do disaster radio talk, suggests that someone else should do a node mounting talk?
• scott - wants to know the requirements and desires for food, needs to know a week in advance and monetary compensation
  • mediterraean food
  • fruit and pastries
• jorrit - we haven't started the propaganda, where should we flyer and poster and post online.
• eve and blake - will print flyers

etherpad

grant - tried to get etherpad instance running on digital ocean ... and ... only 20GB available so not running yet

node mount

• grant - got one node up at the hearth got it connected to TMI - almost a three node mesh.
• blake - should we finish the node mount of last Sunday? when is the next node mount?
• grant - will coordinate with Marc, contact Bullitt about Dave (Berkeley Hills) house visit last Thursday