Mesh/09 October 2018
People's Open Network Weekly Meeting - 9 October 2018 7:30pm-9pm
Agenda
- Introductions and Meeting Roles (10 mins)
- Check in on previous action items (5 mins)
- Updates & Reportbacks (20 mins)
- Next Sunday (5 mins)
- Action Items (5 mins)
- Breakout Groups
Introductions
Introduce yourself: Name; Preferred Pronoun; Icebreaker Response; BRIEF Announcements
- Icebreaker question: What are you optimistic about?
- Sethasauras - they - optimistic about your house staying around for a long time
- Null - him/he - I'm optimistic about free internet
- Benny - he/him - this publication i get monthly called Smudge. there's an interview w/ a 7-year old about politics First question/answer is, "What is politics?" -> "i dunno"
- Moritz - visitting from Berlin - he/him - we can do really huge mesh networks! in the future
- nanomonkey/Scott - he/him - oceanfront property
- grant - does anyone know the average elevation of Oakland? It's 42.
- Lesley - no preferred pronouns - ive been convincing myself and am cautiously optimistic about the upcoming elections. if young people turn out to vote there might be some big changes--backlash!
- Grant - he/they/whatever - I am optimistic about the end of the world. I'm kind of excited about the post-apocalypse.
- jenny - riffing off that, end of world will help popularize solar punk! We have 12 year catastrophe deadlline... maybe a subculture movement that captures the youth--captain planet meets cyberpunk.
- Jenny - she/her - am otherwise not very optimistic
- remote-mai - she/they - optimistic that I will pass this damn networking midterm test >_< . Also that some form of biological/genetic intelligence will prevail, even if humans don't end up surviving past climate change + its effects
- grant - the rats will inherit the earth
- remote-mai: maybe the rats can learn a thing or two about how *not* to build civilizations
- Also! I may be able to meet up with the Community Networks group meeting at the IGF next month if I go there for a gig. Would be sad to miss BYOI and the Libre Router hackathon tho.
Meeting Roles
- Facilitator/s: Benny
- Stacktaker: Lesley
- Notetaker/s: Benny, Jenny, all of us!!
- URL of this pad: https://peoplesopen.net/notes
Check in on previous action items
Check previous meeting minutes at https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/Minutes and past action items below:
- find someone who's happy to climb towers to mount radio on richmond tower (ben's friend?)
- scott doesn't mind the heights
- grant is not opposed to it and has work-related insurance
- drone mount?
- see if we got a neighborly app receipt and put in google drive (benny)
- we didn't
- schedule psychz deprecation session with juul (benny)
- didn't happen
- jenny - currently in back + forth with psychz because of card problems
- GRANT: should prep a second exit node
- buy omni antennas (grant)
- done https://trello.com/c/nblrd6F9/26-ubiquiti-amo-5g13-5ghz-airmax-dual-omni-13dbi-wifi-antenna
- suggested purchasing https://www.solidsignal.com/pview.asp?p=amo-5g13
- suggest keeping 2 in stock at all times
- Scott and Robb went to Alco and got angle iron for roof mounts, did not get any conduit
- e-mail paxio (juul)
- not done yet--see below. mai forwarding e-mail to juul
- add ISOC proposal process to loomio discussion below (jenny)
- done https://www.loomio.org/d/t96DoNbJ/what-should-a-project-proposal-look-like-/2
- also added comment about minimum proposal requirements
- new loomio thread for defining project proposal template (benny)
Updates & Reportbacks
- remote-juul asks: Is there an email thread with Paxio folk that I'm not on? I haven't emailed them yet. I couldn't find the thread when searching yesterday but also my internet connection was crap so I might have missed it. Can someone forward it to me then I will email today.
- remote-mai: I have a thread with them — in which they stopped responding a few months ago when I followed up. I'll forward you that email (which includes Tim Pozar) and you can cc me on the new thread we start with them re: our LOS to them
- remote-juul asks: Are we sure the AirFiber we mounted on our building is the international version? It probably should be.
- benny: I don't think we are sure. I'll try to confirm. I hope it says somewhere in the UI?
- juul: If the country is restricted to u.s. only then thats not the int version
- benny: okay--there should be a country selection dropdown or something?
- lesley: yep, it's locked onto US or ...I think the gui is a little different? I'm trying to look right now, assuming I'm connected to the correct ip. Nevermind, Grant just reminded me I can't connect with my machine without a cable. I guess the only way to connect is to climb up on the roof and plug in.
- grant: we can get into to from the cage, IP/pw info should be in trello, will debug later (I remember being a dropdown for country)
- lesley: Nope, it's the US version :/
Bugs/Technical
Priority bugs we need help with are located at: http://peoplesopen.net/helpwanted - For a high-level overview of recent Github activity, see the Trello: https://trello.com/invite/b/r9l5ouQ4/3b2eecd83bb9e7a57a339cf1ee038288/sudo-mesh-github-repos
- jenny - grant schooled the sudowrt firmware repo
- benny + juul + grant debugged how to get meshing working with air os extender nodes
- for more on private network and traffic priortization see these issues:
Just found this https://imgur.com/B0jzM9h ???!
Node Mounts & Outreach
Node Mounts Trello: https://trello.com/invite/b/DtzngKaM/49e1c21fc9da199fcdeceb8623b5117a/node-mounts
- grant - reed brothers node is now working! also setup the omni antenna atop the reed bros roof. 52 down, 15 up from omni connection. do we want to limit it?
- jenny - might be good to discuss in sudoroom
- scott - can you give priority to the private network traffic?
- grant - effective way to handle that would be for someone to get a better home router that can prioritize their traffic (as opposed to it being a peoples open network issue). we can't prioritize someones home internet traffic.
- scott - i thought that was the point of the private SSID, so we can prioritize that over the public SSID
- grant: can't ping extender port from just anywhere - but if you plug it into public port - in this case, port 2, that gives you an ip address and then you can ping the extender node and get into its interface.
Communications & Events
Comms Trello: https://trello.com/invite/b/f3ugMPNU/94033ee6c2cef93fc1b1637b727c902a/sudo-mesh-communications // Events Trello: https://trello.com/invite/b/Y3XfDK85/2b6fcb4fa92788609692a53a96fb4614/peoples-open-events
- benny - working with jorrit on tcp/ip/udp postcards
- jenny - yar did a cool workshop in sudoroom like that
- jenny - if you used the non profit dev summit code let me know!
- jenny - nico from librerouter is being sponsored to come to the non profit dev summit and wants to work on libre router stuff on the 17th!
- jenny - internet governance summit in paris! mai may already be there. some funding available if we want to send someone.
- jenny - someone from the netherlands pinged the rocketchat today about starting a peoples open network in florida!
- null - i met someone who has good contacts who seemed interested in peoples open! he might spread the word
- seth sent out newsletter! woo! jenny + grant showed him how to use mailchimp
- jenny - highest click rate of any newsletter yet! (except 1)
Internal Logistics / Finance
Internal Logistics & Bureaucracy Trello: https://trello.com/invite/b/LzVQlW3X/1bb8bd543c8633688175365d2554c2c2/internal-logistics-bureaucracy-brainstorms
- jenny - just ordered the omnis mentioned earlier this meeting.
- jenny- sierk submitted request for another digital ocean droplet to separate dev and prod envs
- jenny - we have a home depot gift card
- jenny - we really need an insurance policy -- to do that we need to update our business plan to show that we have the money to pay for an insurance policy
- moritz - you need an insurance policy? we don't need one at freifunk.
- moritz: people just connect, we receive info that this or that device is linked to some other device, and then we map it but we assume no liability for those connections.
- used to be much more complicated - self-assigned IP addresses, wiki account, etc; - now is much more simple that's how a lot of places got connected - even 2000 nodes in an area or an entirely interconnected downtown - they just popped up - no liability, but it works! public internet in the middle of town. lots of people involved in municipal governance
- moritz: people just connect, we receive info that this or that device is linked to some other device, and then we map it but we assume no liability for those connections.
- moritz - you need an insurance policy? we don't need one at freifunk.
Next Sunday
Node Mount
We try to arrange a rooftop node mount every Sunday afternoon. Ongoing spreadsheet is located at: https://peoplesopen.net/sundays
- Next Sunday's mount: maybe sailing club? may
Office Hours
We host office hours every Sunday from 1-2pm in Sudo Room. To sign up for a shift, fill in your name here: https://ethercalc.org/byoi_office_hours
- Next Sunday's volunteer: maybe seth, maybe grant (probably)
- Notes from this past Sunday's session:
Action Items
- come up with list of psychz node ips (grant + benny)
- follow up about psychz billing (jenny)
- e-mail Jonah about tower rehab status (jenny, cc lesley, grant & benny)
- print node port stickers (jnny)
- e-mail yar about tcp activities (benny)
- connect berkeley marina - tony (smurfir@gmail.com) - jenny -> null / grant /
Breakout Groups
At the end of the meeting, break out into small groups to hack on or discuss specific topics.
Last Meeting Notes
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