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= Low power equipment =
This section is about very low power equipment. The rest of this page is more focused on running stuff like TP-Link dual band routers and Ubiquiti AirMax gear on solar which is a different scale of cost/difficulty.
== Low power nodes ==
The [[Mesh/Hardware experiments|hardware experiments]] page lists some nodes that can be used with low power.
We can probably assume power usage of about 1 watt for most of the lower power stuff but probably not a lot less.
== Solar ==
A small 4 watt panel that outputs 5v directly is available [http://www.ebay.com/itm/201493671665 for $14 on ebay]. It comes with a female USB A plug but the plug is of visible crappy quality and it failed after a few uses, however it's trivial to just solder on e.g. a male micro-usb end instead. We haven't yet tested what the actual power output is for these panels over a day of california sun but will do so soon.
== Battery ==
If we have the solar hooked up straight to the node then any passing cloud might take it offline. Better to have a small battery acting as a UPS. Since we can use a 5v solar panel why not use a cheap Lithium Ion portable USB battery packs. We've been lead to believe that it will wear out Li-Ion batteries faster if they're kept at 100% charge all the time. We're just going to try anyway and see how long the last.
Some USB battery packs don't allow charging and discharging at the same time. We ordered a selection of the cheaper units and tested them. Here are the results:
* [http://www.ebay.com/itm/321850110492 2600 mAh CoolGo pack] - $6.79 - Works and verified at 2600 mAh!
* [http://www.ebay.com/itm/301573240761 2600 mAh No-name "extruded aluminum square" with button] - $6 - Works but only ~1300 mAh capacity :(
* [http://www.ebay.com/itm/181725452512 2600 mAh PowerBank "extruded plastic square" without button] - $3.75 - Works but max charge rate 500 mA :(
* [http://www.ebay.com/itm/252224862952 2000 mAh Motorola flat pack with integrated micro-usb cable] - $6 - No discharge while charging :(
* [http://www.ebay.com/itm/221974269792 Cylindrical unit without included 18650 battery] - $1.25 - Waiting for it to arrive.
Most of these are rated to charge and discharge at 1 A, except the cheaper "PowerBank" which is rated at 1 A discharge but only 500 mA for charging which would limit charging to 2.5 W.
Assuming that these batteries actually have a capacity of 2600 mAh at 5v that's 13 Wh which is enough to power a 1 watt router like the NEXX WT2030F for 13 hours. That means that 2600 mAh is not enough to carry such a device through the night during winter in Oakland since the longest night is just under 14.5 hours long. It's probably a good idea to double the capacity since the capacity will drop over the lifetime of the battery.
Then the question remains if a 4 watt panel is enough to charge 14.5 hours worth of power in the ~9.5 hours of "sun" on the shortest day. We need 14.5 Wh generated in 9.5 hours. So we need a bit more than 1.5 watts of charge. Let's say 2 watts given conversion losses (how big are losses?). So if we have a solar panel that's theoretically generating 4 watts in full noon sun that's definitely not going to cut it on a cloudy winter day. We need some numbers on the efficiency degradation of standard solar panels on a cloudy day.
= Power usage =
= Power usage =


Ubiquiti routers all use 8 watts (actually maybe only 6.5 watts for current gen gear). That comes to 5856 watt-hours per month. As of May 2013, the average price for electricity in the bay area was 22.8 cents per kilowatt-hours. $0.228 * 5.856 kilowatt-hours ~= $1.335. So less than $1.5 per month.
Ubiquiti routers all use 8 watts (actually maybe only 6.5 watts for current gen gear, and we should test that). That comes to 5856 watt-hours per month. As of May 2013, the average price for electricity in the bay area was 22.8 cents per kilowatt-hours. $0.228 * 5.856 kilowatt-hours ~= $1.335. So less than $1.5 per month.


== Voltage ==
== Voltage ==


The Ubiquiti gear takes between 10.5 volts and 25 volts. I believe most of their official numbers state something like 12 to 24 volts, but one of their engineers posted a spreadsheet on their forum which listed the actual limits.
The Ubiquiti gear takes between 10.5 volts and 25 volts. I believe most of their official numbers state something like 12 to 24 volts, but one of their engineers posted a spreadsheet on their forum which listed the actual limits.
TP-Link N750 routers use a [http://www.monolithicpower.com/desktopmodules/documentmanage/api/document/getdocument?id=428 MP1482] voltage regulator which takes between 4.75v and 18v input.
Western Digital N600 routers use a [http://www.richtek.com/assets/product_file/RT8293B/DS8293B-03.pdf RT8293B] voltage regulator which takes 4.5v to 23v input.


= Solar =
= Solar =
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On top of that some electronics are needed for battery charge control. I'm not sure what the price for that is, but probably around $20. And then there's the battery.
On top of that some electronics are needed for battery charge control. I'm not sure what the price for that is, but probably around $20. And then there's the battery.


== Battery ==
== Battery ==
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Either way we shouldn't discharge car batteries below 11 volts. How do we prevent that? What is the simples/cheapest low voltage cut-off circuit?
Either way we shouldn't discharge car batteries below 11 volts. How do we prevent that? What is the simples/cheapest low voltage cut-off circuit?
Twisted_Haywire has some ideas for super simple circuits. Another option is to use a voltage comparator + divider + mosfet. You can get cheap comparators for $1 or less on ebay/aliexpress.
== PCB ==
If we end up wanting low voltage cut-off then if makes sense to put it on a PCB. [http://dirtypcbs.com/ Dirty PCBs] charge $14 for ten 5x5 cm PCBs, so $1.4 extra per unit, and it drops to $75 for 100 units.


== Higher voltage extended version ==
== Higher voltage extended version ==

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