[sudo-discuss] FUD around Lockpicking class

[Anon195714]

Re. Shawn:

In no way am I suggesting that we start "working with the city or law
enforcement officers on reporting who shows up at events or assist them
in doing so," any more than the radical Quakers did. 

What I _am_ advocating is to open the lines of communication and point
out that if the city is truly concerned about badguys showing up, they
can send someone along to hang out and observe for themselves.  What
they're going to see is a room full of geeks learning an oldschool
mechanical skill.  More likely they won't bother, in which case their
objection can be dismissed as meaningless. 

(BTW, I've known how to pick locks since my naughty phone phreak days in
highschool, when the word "tweet" was slang for the 2600-Hz "clear
tandem" signal, not a friggin' commercial brand for neo-telegrams
dressed up as something cutting-edge.)

As for comparing "'known gang member'" to "the more privileged class":
that's postmodern BS.  The #1 killer of young black men in Oakland isn't
police bullets but gang bullets.  So where are the outraged protests in
front of known gang enclaves, eh?  This isn't an abstraction: a young
black man I knew was killed in a drive-by.  As for "privileged class,"
about 1/3 of SudoRoom members are unemployed, and many are
borderline-homeless.  A few more "privileges," such as full-time jobs
that pay decent wages, would be a good thing. 

-G.


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On 13-02-28-Thu 12:09 AM, Shawn Lesniak wrote:
> On 2013-02-27 23:52, Anon195714 wrote:
>> Yo's-
>>
>> On the other hand, the Mayor could send along a plain-clothes detective
>> to hang out and keep an eye open for known gang members etc.  "Just say
>> Honeypot!", and we're doing the city a favor.
>>
> ...
>> Does anyone here have good relations with anyone in Oakland city gov,
>> and want to volunteer to get the lines of communication open?  
> I would be uncomfortable showing up at this event or other sudoroom
> events if we were working with the city or law enforcement officers on
> reporting who shows up at events or assist them in doing so.  It is not
> any more illegal/immoral/wrong for a 'known gang member' to show up at a
> class than one of the more privileged class.
>
> -Shawn
>
>
>
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