[sudo-discuss] FUD around Lockpicking class

[Matthew Meier]

considering that i was called an idiot and met with hostility when
my original intent was to get some more information on the subject. i'd be
interested in keeping this discussion public.

-Wolfy

On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 9:40 AM, Anon195714 <anon195714 at sbcglobal.net>wrote:

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> Re. Hep:
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> Rather than just sling a sentence-full of unsupported ad-hominems (clue:
> ad-homs = you lose), how'bout unpacking that nonsense and spelling it out?
>
> Assertion: gang violence kills more young black men than police do.
> That's an assertion of fact.  If you don't like it, you're welcome to try
> to disprove it.  Go get some numbers.
>
> Question: where are the protests over gang violence?  The question
> stands.  Show us a mass protest at a known gang house after a particularly
> egregious shooting.
>
> A young black guy I knew was killed in a drive-by.  Ever hear of Tupac
> Shakur?  I was one of his 2nd Engs. at Starlight Studios in Richmond.  He
> was ferociously brilliant.  Murdered at age 25.
>
> "Privileged": about 1/3 of SudoRoom members are unemployed and many are
> borderline homeless.  Admittedly that's a rough estimate.  But if you don't
> like my numbers, get some better ones.
>
> Full-time jobs at decent wages would be a good thing:  What don't you like
> about that?  Gandhi once said "Western civilization would be a good
> thing."  I say worker solidarity would be a good thing.  But you can't have
> worker solidarity until people have work.  A job at decent wages isn't a
> privilege, it's a human right.  And hackers picking up more trade-skills is
> also a good thing.
>
> Let's take this to private email so we don't digress the list.
>
> -G.
>
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> On 13-02-28-Thu 8:35 AM, hep wrote:
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> On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 1:13 AM, Anon195714 <anon195714 at sbcglobal.net>wrote:
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>> As for comparing "'known gang member'" to "the more privileged class":
>> that's postmodern BS.  The #1 killer of young black men in Oakland isn't
>> police bullets but gang bullets.  So where are the outraged protests in
>> front of known gang enclaves, eh?  This isn't an abstraction: a young black
>> man I knew was killed in a drive-by.  As for "privileged class," about 1/3
>> of SudoRoom members are unemployed, and many are borderline-homeless.  A
>> few more "privileges," such as full-time jobs that pay decent wages, would
>> be a good thing.
>>
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>>
>
>  What's up sudoroomers? Hugely concerned about all the racist, classist,
> and privileged BS that was spouted in this paragraph right here.
>
>  -hep
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